One problem is the 'audience' is so varied.

We have the beginner.. who wants basic stuff fast. No time to read details, get 
on and map!

The 'expert' with an edge case or problem and wants minute detail.

How to deal with them in the one document?

Have sections..

At the front there needs to be the basics.. for the beginners... avoid TL:DR

Then as a completely separate section .. details.. verbose. Possibly these 
should be separate pages, or use the discussion page?



On 28/04/19 22:43, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
I could remove some of my examples and some of the other that have
been added since 2015, but I wonder if the page will still be
understood by most people without examples?

Perhaps we could move all the examples to a later section, so that the
first part is relatively short and to the point?

On 4/28/19, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 28/04/2019 10:43, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
Please suggest any improvements to the wording or corrections:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Verifiability#Geometry

Thanks for trying to improve the documentation, but unfortunately,
trying to add more detail (including specifics about particular tags)
makes the page more complicated and more difficult to understand for new
mappers (who are usually the people I'd point at that page with a DWG
hat on).

For example, compare the current version of the page with this one from
2015:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Verifiability&oldid=1141651

The 2015 version contains a definition, an example and short "what to
do" and "what not to do" sections.

The current one simply doesn't do that.  Obviously there are 20 edits
since that example that I picked out pretty much at random from 2015, of
which yours is only the last, and the authors of each of those have seen
an edge case that wasn't quite covered by the documentation, which led
to them adding their new section. The problem is that while all of those
extra little bits on their own have value, taken together they do make
the page less useful as a summary of a key concept in OpenStreetMap.

Maybe what would be better would be to try and reduce the
"Verifiability" page to its original summary status but to break out
some of the detail into linked sub-pages?  The whole "geometry" section
would be a good candidate for that (the page already contains an
example, two paragraphs above).  Also "story-telling" content such as
"Someone might do this" is probably better elsewhere too.

Best Regards,

Andy




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