Round and round we go and ne'er the twain shall meet. Mobile home simply will not work in this use case. Nobody camps or travels from place to place in a mobile home.
On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:01 PM Paul Allen <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 at 22:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Wow, so much for me naively thinking that caravan was a universal word! >> Should know better by now :-) >> > > Yeah, where are the camels? It's not a proper caravan without camels. > > Have a question about searching though, which was raised previously. You >> have a place that deals in both (self-propelled) "motorhomes" & also >> (towed) "caravans", & it's tagged as a shop=caravan, with caravan=yes & >> also motorhome=yes (ignoring the exact wording for the moment). >> > > If you search for motorhome, will it be found because the details include >> motorhome=yes, or would you have to search for caravan, because it's tagged >> as a shop=caravan? (Sorry, I know that's badly worded but can't think of a >> better way of putting it) >> > > Having thought about it some more, and using shop=mobile_home as the main > tag (I know you > don't like it, but I do), then > mobile_home:sells=static_caravan;touring_caravan;motor_home. Yes, > I just mixed UK and US terms there, but it was about the best I could come > up with on a first > attempt (no doubt we will spend weeks arguing over those). Maybe we ought > to have > "caravan" and "static_caravan." > > So mobile_home appears to cover it. > > > Not really, sorry > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_home: "A *mobile home* (also > *trailer*, *trailer home*, *house trailer*, *static caravan*, *residential > caravan*) is a prefabricated > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefabrication>structure, built in a > factory on a permanently attached chassis before being transported to site > (either by being towed or on a trailer). Used as permanent homes > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home>, or for holiday or temporary > accommodation, they are left often permanently or semi-permanently in one > place" > > Nothing in that excludes touring caravans. "Used as permanent homes *or* > for holiday > or temporary accommodation." "The are left *often* permanently [,..] in > one place." It may imply > that the term most commonly refers to static caravans but doesn't > explicitly exclude RVs, > touring caravans, etc. > > Also, from the second paragraph of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorhome > "Motorhomes" are part of the much larger associated group of *mobile > homes* which includes > *caravans, *also known as tourers, and static caravans. > > Not that anyone should ever take Wikipedia as gospel for anything, but > that accords well with > (British) English definitions of "mobile" and "home." You can live in it > (home) and you can > move it around (mobile). "Motor home" excludes towed caravans and static > caravans (no motor) and > really only includes RVs and similar self-propelled vehicles. > > -- > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Dave Swarthout Homer, Alaska Chiang Mai, Thailand Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com
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