From subject [Tagging] still_visible_on=* or maybe still_visible_in=?

On 27/06/18 23:55, Richard Welty wrote:

On 6/27/18 9:52 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2018-06-27 15:38 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@tutanota.com
<mailto:matkoni...@tutanota.com>>:

     Sometimes it makes sense to do not fully delete OSM elements
     representing completely
     destroyed objects.

     For example, completely destroyed road should not be present in
     OSM, but it may make sense
     to keep destroyed:highway=service until it is not visible on
     various aerial images to avoid remapping
     it by armchair editors.



Generally I agree it can be helpful to state for a transition time
that something is gone but still visible in common aerial imagery.

What is a "completely destroyed road"? Can there still be the roadbed?
Drainage system / remains? Much more common than something vanishing
completely is partial removal or decay. Often, traces remain. We
should also raise awareness in this regard, so that people consider
their options carefully after discovering a discrepancy between the
ground reality and our map.

For a very specific use case there is natural=tree_stump which can
often be a good choice to convert a natural=tree into, after it was
cut. But it isn't suitable if they removed the stump as well
(encountered this just 2 days ago).
i would tend to use the existing disused: namespace for things that are
disappearing.

No.
Disused is for things that are still present and can be reactivated with little 
effort.

If it is gone .. then it is not there.

I would use the source= tag to stipulate the source of where the information 
comes from, and if necessary to state that imagery from other sources are out 
of date at this time.
I have done this a few time. I have even had to do it on stuff i started to 
change to map imagery .. only to discover other imagery had the presently maped 
stuff on it.
Use that source key. It really helps other mappers.

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Note on subject line ...
It looks like various characters are not liked in these subject lines .. the 
same characters not liked in file names.
So I have taken out those characters in the subject line.. sorry to break the 
thread.


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