Am 23.05.2018 um 22:33 schrieb Greg Troxel:
Florian Lohoff <f...@zz.de> writes:

I now see increasing usage of service roads as a category below
unclassified. People tagging "smaller roads" in the countryside
as a service roads.
I think this is basically wrong tagging.

I find this a little disturbing and now got into an argument whereas
my position is the above - broken down into my more strict language:

- If the public has a right of way
- The road is build/run by public authorities
- Its not something obvious like a parking space
- It cant be service

It might not fit 100% everywhere, but no rule without its exception.
Broadly agreed with your concerns.

A very important characteristic of a place you can drive is

   - it is legally a road, where more or less anyone has a right to
     drive (and this can be public ownership or private).  Typically this
     means that the ground on which it is built is carved out as a
     separate lot for ownership (or government owned).  This can be
     government, or it can be a road in a subdivision which is in the US
     marked "private way" meaning that it is legally a road but privately
     owned.  You can still get a speeding ticket on it, because the road
     use rules apply to private ways, but do not apply to what you do in
     your farm field.

     Whether they apply in a shopping center is an interesting question.
     I'd say: yes, you will be cited, and probably that does not hold
     up.  But in some places (north carolina), the property owner can put
     up signs that the traffic laws apply anyway - I saw these at the
     biltmore estate.   Basically "this is private but the unwashed
     public is here and we want the police to be able to bust them" :-)

   - not legally a road, in that there is no right of access, traffic
     laws do not necessarily apply, and there is no separate parcel for
     it

This is basically
"highway=primary/secondary/tertiary/unclassified/residential" vs
"highway=service/track".

It would be goo to have this be

That's a wonderful theory - and you get a 'stew' mess of unclassified if you do that in mapping the reality ... The mapping differentiation in unclassified (mostly connecting roads), service without service=* (mostly destination roads) and track (for - due to history - public accessible rural driveways) is simply driven by reality.

The first we had at navigating in the late 199x'/early 200x - resulting in advising horrible routes through undesirable ways. With the latter you have a reasonable routing (and rendering too, by the way).

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