On 17/03/2018 09:51, Daniel Koć wrote:
Since there was no response so far, may I propose to deprecate using
historic=manor and suggest on the wiki page to use only
historic=castle + castle_type=manor instead. The reasons:
OSM doesn't really have deprecated tags, except in special cases (for
example highway=ford on a way is a bad idea, because you can't say what
kind of ford it is).
Also "castle:type=manor" hasn't exactly troubled the scorers so far, has
it? https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/castle:type=manor shows a
grand total of _3_.
2. There's a section on historic=manor wiki that says:
"There may sometimes be problems distinguishing between manors,
castles, stately homes. The manor tag is intended only for
representative buildings that are in the same time the administrative
center of a large agricultural estate. Buildings lacking this economic
feature should not be tagged."
I wouldn't read too much into the wiki here. I suspect that almost
no-one who tags these objects has read it (and I'm basing that on a
fairly extensive analysis of the usage of historic tags in the UK and
Ireland).
Being a subtype of castle shows that distinction is softer than when
using a separate tag.
3. It's easier for data consumers (including rendering) to have more
general categories with subcategories.
Speaking as a data consumer, not really. Some aspects of historic
tagging were difficult, but those were the questions of "is that thing
still there", "is that thing a building/ruined building, or the grounds
in which the building is" and "this has a historic tag and lots of other
tags; which to render"?
For info the relevant bit of the list that I'm using for "historic stuff
to render" starts at
https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/SomeoneElse-style/blob/master/style.lua#L1571
= that's only a long list because I'm looking at all historic stuff, not
just "castle" and "manor".
I'm using exactly the same rendering pipeline as OSM's standard style, BTW.
Best Regards,
Andy
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