Let me show to you, the smallest cathedral in the world: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_Holy_Cross,_Nin
It's not the seat of a bishop any more, but it was in the past (and churches are often called cathedrals even after they lose the status of a seat of a bishop). I wouldn't tag this building=cathedral, even building=church is a bit much. Janko uto, 19. pro 2017. u 14:19 Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> napisao je: > Adam, Martin, > > thanks for your input. It seems that one cannot only rely on what one > sees from the street, or at least not always. Sometimes the name > (church vs cathedral) has to be used to determine the value for > building. > I've seen pubs in all kind of buildings in Belgium, from being located > in terraced houses, over train stations and villas to old manor > houses. I doubt there is really a "pub"-building type here. > > I guess there will always be cases were we can debate whether a type is X > or Y. > > regards > > m. > > > > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Adam Snape <adam.c.sn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > My own view of the building tag is that it notes what the building looks > > like to someone on the ground. If it's a fairly generic building then > > obviously the current use is a fairly good indicator. Something like a > > church or pub though often still retains the characteristics of that > type of > > building even when internally converted. As long as it still externally > > looks like a church or pub that is what I tag the building as. > > > > Adam > > > > On 16 Dec 2017 4:35 p.m., "Martin Koppenhoefer" <dieterdre...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> sent from a phone > >> > >> > On 16. Dec 2017, at 09:39, Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > The building page on the wiki [1] lists e.g a church, cathedral and > >> > chapel. > >> > But what is the structural difference between a church and a cathedral > >> > ? I always thought a cathedral is where a bishop leads the messes (or > >> > something like that). > >> > >> > >> yes, AFAIK a cathedral is the main church of a diocese in certain > >> denominations like roman-catholic, it is the church where the bishop > >> or archbishop has his seat, and it is therefore also typically the > >> biggest and most important church of the area. Structurally you will > >> find cathedrals in general to be bigger than other churches, although > >> there can be pretty big churches as well. Technically, "cathedral" is > >> more a title than a certain type, while there are specific sub-types, > >> in particular "gothic cathedrals" (mainly in France). > >> > >> > >> > >> > The wiki page on cathedral tries to avoid this by saying some > >> > buildings are build as cathedral but without a bishop, without saying > >> > how one can see the difference between a cathedral and a church. > >> > >> > >> I would leave this decision to the church. If they call it a cathedral > >> it is one. > >> > >> > >> > >> > I understand that chapels can be attached to other buildings, but they > >> > can also be free standing. But how different are the bigs ones then > >> > from a small church ? > >> > >> > >> chapels might be there for a certain purpose, e.g. on cemeteries or in > >> baptisteries, or part of a bigger structure (even a train station, an > >> airport, a hotel, a convent, a hospital or palace). Again, I'd go here > >> by what it is called by the church. > >> > >> > >> > I see similar problems with rectangular buildings with one or two > >> > entrances a couple of floors, a flat roof and a lot of windows. They > >> > can be schools, commercial, apartments, civic buildings. I guess one > >> > has to take the interior division into account as well to determine > >> > the type, not ? > >> > >> > >> residential buildings are typically different from administrative > >> buildings regarding the unit size and inner organization, entrances, > >> corridors, stairs, sanitary blocks, etc.. You won't typically have > >> difficulties telling which kind it is, if you enter. Of course, very > >> neutral "architecture" like containers might be usable as > >> (construction site) offices and also as tempory emergency residence. > >> > >> > >> > >> > So can a commercial building change to a school when the interior wall > >> > are changed? And if so, why is a church not changed into an apartment > >> > building when the interior changes ? > >> > > >> > Or are we just wishing that building refers to the structure and not > >> > the function ? > >> > Or am I overthinking the whole topic ? > >> > >> > >> yes, convertions are generally possible, it depends on economic and > >> cultural factors if they are done. Some structures are clearly more > >> universally usable and easier to convert into a different usage then > >> what they were built for, compared to others. It also depends on the > >> amount of compromise, an inhabitant is willing to accept, on the > >> individual lifestyle (some people like living in industrial > >> buildings), etc. > >> > >> > >> > Those questions came up after I tried to answer a question on a barn > >> > used as church and community centre on the help website. > >> > >> > >> as you say it is a barn used as a church, I'd say building=barn > >> If you had said: a barn converted to a church, building=church you > >> should have considered building=church. ;-) > >> > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Martin > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Tagging mailing list > >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tagging mailing list > > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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