I also see several problems to define the "same" concept: * a shop that closes (bankrupt) and a new that opens afterwards. Is this the same shop ? Is there a difference when the shop owner remains the same? When the products they sell are the same (I have a case of bakery that closed and opened a few months later with new owners and a different name in my town) ?
* What if the shop moves to a new address ? What if someone already recorded the shop at the new location, how do we merge the IDs? * A restaurant POI and the building it resides in are 2 different concepts, they both need their own permanent ID. How can we distinguish them ? How does the software knows this when someone "joins" the POI and the building ? * What do you do when a modern part is attached to a listed building ? Will the building parts have permanent IDs ? This is something you cannot solve with software alone. A human has to try to decide what you have to do with the permanent IDs in some (many?) cases. m. On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 3:13 AM, Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrak...@gmail.com> wrote: > Permanent IDs has been brought up several times, especially as part of the > Wikidata ID discussion. I started a wiki page to outline the requirements > and goals, but it might be incomplete, feel free to add / correct / comment. > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Permanent_ID > > Once we reach the agreement on the goals, we can figure out the > implementation strategy. > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> > wrote: >> >> On 28 November 2017 at 16:40, Christoph Hormann <o...@imagico.de> wrote: >> >> > The problem is OSM is a map of the physical world, not a map of the >> > world's databases. If Wikidata wants to create links between OSM and >> > other databases that is great but so far i think no one has made a good >> > case why this linking information should be stored in OSM rather than >> > Wikidata. >> >> Then you are not paying attention. OSM IDs are volatile - far more >> volatile than Wikipedia IDs, let alone Wikidata IDs. >> >> > Again my suggestion: Working on better ways to address features in OSM >> > in a stable way from the outside would be much more productive >> >> Great! Let us know when you have a working solution, consensus to >> implement it, and tools that work with it. >> >> -- >> Andy Mabbett >> @pigsonthewing >> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
