On 03-Jun-17 06:17 PM, John Willis wrote:


Javbw
On Jun 3, 2017, at 8:08 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:


hgv=yes/designated and

capacity:hgv=yes/number
For designating handicapped parking lots (which are often separate here in 
Japan at large POIs) I have tagged them:

Amenity=parking
Access=no
Access:disabled=designated
Capacity=x
Capacity=disabled=x

I don't think that is documented (and possibly incorrect), but I imagine this idea  
would work well for any motor vehicle parking, as we have no way to tag for the 
various size separations (and designation combinations that vary from region to 
region) that currently exist insides the "4+ wheeled Motor vehicle class)

✔️bicycle
✔️motorcycle
✔️Car
❌truck (HGV)
❌bus (HGV, but separated in Japan)
❌motorhome

Various designations based on the occupants:

❌disabled car/van
❌pregnant
❌elderly
❌student


And various other classes of designated parking (emergency, service, taxi,etc)

If we use this format:
Al
Access:foo=designated
(Where foo is an existing type), then amenity=parking can be broken up using 
access, and can handle various types of combinations as it exists in the real 
world

Amenity=parking
Access=permissive
Access:hgv=yes
Access:motor_vehicle=no
Access:bus=designated

But there is also some existing tags:

Disabled=designated
HGV=designated
Bus=designated

These also exist, so I am not sure how this reconciles.

? Goes against

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:capacity with some 300,000 uses.
For example ..
capacity:disabled=no/yes/number rather than Capacity=disabled=x Perhaps you 
meant that anyway.

And there is this which I am following 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/More_Parking_Spaces
This has more types of vehicles, though not all.
I am not mentioning the Australian road trains :P Those have special areas and, 
if they park, they park a fair way away from anything else.

So the above Access:hgv=yes could become capacity:hgv=yes (or a number where 
the number of spaces are known).

The OSM access difference between hgv=yes and hgv=designated issubtle  ... both 
are legal access, the 'designated' adds a preference for this above 'yes'.
The capacity tags means that it can be used by that kind of thing, not exclusive. Others could take all the space...
Humm much like hgv=yes ... the advantage of capacity is specifying the number.

In some places I have separated the parking areas up into the usages ..
so the disabled spots have there own way with amenity=parking, 
capacity:disabled=2 for example.
I suppose I should add access=no disabled=designated as that would be strictly 
correct.
This means that the disabled spots should get rendered separately and aid those 
concerned getting to the right place.
I think that helps them, when I can be bothered.

The thing is that the hgv spaces do get used by caravans too and possibly buses 
too .. not certain as to the signs on the ground, as I don't recall them!

I'll think more on it.
At the moment my thought is that it would be of more use to tag those spots 
that cannot be used by hgvs etc.







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