On 15/05/2017 14:25, Bryan Housel wrote:
I think I’d rather see people just use the existing wheelchair key, which iD provides in the “Add Field” dropdown.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wheelchair

They are using that, but to compliment it they're also adding those other two tags, to give a fuller picture.


The fields that we expose for restaurants and other buildings are already really cluttered with other things.

The drop-down selection menus are shot in length & the more tags on objects makes the database more accurate & detailed so I'm unsure what you mean by cluttered.


I don’t think I would be able to explain to new mappers that they are supposed to use the `wheelchair` tag on anything, but the `toilets:wheelchair` tag on a building that has the toilets in it, unless they want to map the toilets individually within the building as point nodes. Too complicated.

Providing the desired tags as presents make editing the OSM database simpler not complicated. Dragging in multiple tags from taginfo for the 'All Tags' drop down is more confusing. toilets:wheelchair is added to the node/polygon to indicate the establishment has accessible toilets, No one is expecting the mapping of individual cubicles.



Bryan



On May 15, 2017, at 8:01 AM, Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com <mailto:davefoxfa...@btinternet.com>> wrote:

Ah, I was unaware of the 'Add fields' & 'All tags' differences. Does iD pull in all taginfo or is there a minimum number limit?

As Wheelmap only displays a subset of all establishments people adding data are using iD. Would it big a big problem if 'toilets:wheelchair' & wheelchair:description were added to the defaults.

DaveF.



On 14/05/2017 17:00, Clifford Snow wrote:
It looks like iD is pulling in data from taginfo when manually adding a tag. When searching for wheelchair, iD only offers a point object, which is correct. We don't tag wheelchairs, we tag objects that have wheelchair attributes.

Clifford

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com <mailto:davefoxfa...@btinternet.com>> wrote:

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    On 14/05/2017 16:04, Bryan Housel wrote:
    I just searched the iD code and none of these tags are iD presets.
    Thanks, Bryan



    On May 14, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Dave F<davefoxfa...@btinternet.com>  
<mailto:davefoxfa...@btinternet.com>  wrote:

    Hi

    toilets:wheelchair 64875 (iD & wheelmap preset)
    wheelchair_toilet 4550 (iD preset)

    What does wheelchair_toilet represent that's different from 
toilets:wheelchair?
    If there isn't one I think wheelchair_toilet should be removed from iD's 
presets

    Other combinations which should potentially be changed:
    wheelchair:toilets 467
    wheelchair:toilet 10
    toilet:wheelchair 6

    DaveF

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