I think I see what the problem is and correct me if I'm wrong.  Under the 
current tagging scheme the only way to tag a road that prohibits Kraftwagen 
would be something like...


bus=no

goods=no

hgv=no

moped=yes

motorcar=no

motorcycle=yes

 ...and probably several others


Even though this situation is unheard of in North America and the UK, it is 
common enough in Germany that there should be a way to streamline it, something 
along the lines of double_track=no, or, if there isn't a suitable English 
translation, kraftwagen=no.  I would agree that Personenkraftwagen translates 
perfectly into motorcar in the OSM sense of the word.


________________________________
From: Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com>
Sent: February 18, 2017 8:26 PM
To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
Subject: Re: [Tagging] access: motorcar and goods, how to read the hierarchy



sent from a phone

On 18 Feb 2017, at 22:36, Tristan Anderson 
<andersontris...@hotmail.com<mailto:andersontris...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

I don't see anything wrong with the hierarchy.  It was mentioned that there are 
signs in Germany that forbid motorcars to pass.  Are you sure that these signs 
aren't prohibiting all vehicles from passing?  This may be the case even if 
there's a picture of a car on the sign.


in Germany the sign with the car on it is about "Kraftwagen" which includes 
besides pkw (cars) also buses and hgv, but it doesn't include motorbikes 
(Kraftrad), typically you'll see a sign which forbids entry for both these 
classes: 
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bildtafel_der_Verkehrszeichen_in_der_Bundesrepublik_Deutschland_seit_2013#/media/Datei%3AZeichen_260_-_Verbot_für_Krafträder_und_Mofas_und_sonstige_mehrspurige_Kraftfahrzeuge%2C_StVO_1992.svg

there's no class for "Kraftwagen" in osm if motorcar is about cars  
(Personenkraftwagen, or is that passenger car?): 
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personenkraftwagen
but I'm not sure about the corresponding term because you can't really rely on 
wikipedia interlinking here, at least the italian article should be linked to 
Personenkraftwagen, not to automobile as it is now: 
https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autovettura
and likely the English one as well. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car
but the English one is not clear in any way, anyway.

Apparently the uk doesn't have a traffic sign restricting the access just for 
cars:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/traffic-signs

cheers,
Martin
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