Hello,

Thank you for your comments. I've tried to take them into account at best. It won't be perfect, but at least it enables to extend the scope of 'visibility' tag (which was once only for clocks), to other devices. Moreover by keeping the three existing values ( 'house', 'street', 'area' ) and just explaining them better, we don't take much risks of compatibility. If no absolute disagreement, we should keep this for this round maybe and not spend to much more time on this. Thxs again


*visibility=** is used for publicly visible devices or features to evaluate the scope of their visibility

-*visibility=house* : visible from the pavement, or up to 10 meters (around), or to indicate that the device is targeted mostly for pedestrians. -*visibility=street* : visible from the current street, or from between 10 m and 50 m (around), or to indicate that the device is targeted to passers-by moving with vehicles going slowly. -*visibility=area* : visible from several directions, or from more than 50 m (around), or to indicate that the device is targeted to passers-by moving with vehicles going fast.


On 29/11/2016 12:12, markus schnalke wrote:
[2016-11-29 11:10] Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com>
2016-11-29 7:02 GMT+01:00 markus schnalke <mei...@marmaro.de>:

     This is just like the smoothness=* case. Instead of having values
     like ``excellent'', ``bad'' or ``horrible'', we now learned that
     it is better to tag for what cases some smoothness is okay. The
     same here: You'll always need the explanations above if you use
     the values ``house'', ``street'' and ``area'', but you can get
     rid of them if you just use the explanations themselves:

             - visibility=for_walkers
             - visibility=for_slow_cars
             - visibility=for_fast_cars


I tend to disagree, the values you propose are more specific and not
universally applicable (this is not about speed, but about scale, these new
values would suggest to take into account other aspects like "visibility from
within a car on the street", not applicable in many cases).
You are right. It should be about distance, not about position nor
speed.


Maybe that's the aspect that I don't like about the value ``street''
(although my suggested values were no better ;-) ): It indicates
position.

If you talk about scale then a set of ``house_scale'',
``street_scale'', ``district_scale'' or so could become universal
scale specifiers to be used in other situations as well. (Here I
would tend to use ``house_scale'' instead of ``building_scale'',
because buildings can be really large -- as large as streets --
whereas houses are usually within a quite limited size range.)


meillo

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