My 2 cents: I am very much in favour of b) highway=* (all the range from motorway, link, prim./sec./tert. to service) + access/vehicle=no and bus/psv=yes/designated.
Hence: > I propose expanding the highway=service to roads that are for one very > specific, non-general-public use, and the addition of service=bus for roads > that are dedicated to buses -1, too different from existing definition and global usage of highway=service > I'm proposing to formalize (by documenting on the wiki) a practice that is > already widespread, namely to tag busways as highway=service. -1, some of them are possibly properly tagged as highway=service, that is not the only case in my opinion. > I think you should consider the access rights (access=no, bus=yes) and the > road classification (highway=service/unclassified) as two separate things. > Ask yourself what kind of highway-tag you would use, if the road was not > limited to buses only. +1, use meaningful tag for level of this road (for the bus in overall road network) > I look at service highways as most general highways. All highways are service > highways, but residential highways are a special type, motorways are another > special type and so on. > So anything that is a highway but is none of these special types, then it's a > service. -1, not my understanding -- althio On 2 November 2016 at 07:23, Tijmen Stam <mailingli...@iivq.net> wrote: > In the local Dutch forum there was a discussion on how to tag what I call > busways*. > > a) as highway=service > with access=no and bus=yes (or psv=yes) > e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/364983960 > > b) as another highway type, such as highway=unclassified in cities and the > country, or highway=motorway_link when it is e.g. a highway ramp. > e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/7391275 and > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/24297125 > > There are examples of both in the Netherlands. While the majority of busways > is tagged as highway=service, there are some people who feel very strongly > against it. > > While I personally prefer the highway=service, the description of > highway=service <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dservice> > doesn't fit it really well: "Generally for access to a building, service > station, beach, campsite, industrial estate, business park, etc. This is > also commonly used for access to parking, driveways, and alleys." > > However, unclassified (the only other possible highway tag if it's not a > _link) "doesn't feel right" to me. > > Looking at taginfo, the undocumented service=bus has 4462 uses, and is in > use globally: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/?key=service&value=bus. > service=busway adds another 1400-ish. > > I propose expanding the highway=service to roads that are for one very > specific, non-general-public use, and the addition of service=bus for roads > that are dedicated to buses, with an implied access=no and bus=yes tag. > > Any ideas? Suggestions? > > Tijmen / IIVQ > > > * With busways I mean separate roads that are legally (and sometimes by use > of a bollard or lift gate also practically) only accessible for buses. This > can be a short connection between two roads, but also a mayor stand-alone > road netword, e.g. <http://www.fransmensonides.nl/foto/tangent04.jpg>. I am > _not_ talking about bus lanes nor about guided busways. > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
