In Belgium, operators work on a regional level. De Lijn in Flanders, TEC in Wallonia and MIVB/STIB in Brussels. There is some geographical overlap. The Brussels company drives to the airport, which is in Flanders and has expensive tickets to get you there. De Lijn and TEC also serve north and south station in Brussels.
There is also Flixbus from the Netherlands and Eurolines for long distance coaches. Veolia/Connexxion also have some buses that pass through Belgium and between Brugge and Breskens, there is line 42 which is operated jointly by De Lijn and the Dutch company that happens to have the concession in The Netherlands. >From France there is a French bus line 2/2B that connects Dunkerque with Adinkerke/De Panne. Free on weekend days for the part in France. From the border to De Panne €1. De Lijn consists of 5 networks, one for each province. (West-Vlaanderen, Oost-Vlaanderen, Antwerpen, Vlaams-Brabant, Limburg) All the same tariff, only long distance buses for students have a different price. TEC consists of 5 networks, one for each province. (Hainaut, Namur, Brabant-Wallon, Liège, Luxembourg). In Brussels, it's possible to buy a JUMP ticket from MIVB, which enables the use of the buses of De Lijn and trains to the nearby stations of the railway company. Tickets from De Lijn and TEC are not valid on buses, trams and metro of the Brussels company. They all introduced a smart card of the same type/technology and they were capable of creating 4 incompatible systems with those cards. Go figure! Somebody who lives near to the capital and to Wallonia would need 4 such cards to be able to use public transport and of course there is a cost involved in getting them. Welcome to Absurdistan. As far as we're concerned networks are smaller geographically than where the operators operate, which seems different to what I think happens in neighbouring countries. I have no idea how we would ever be able to encode all those specificities about the tariffs, somehow. Polyglot 2016-08-02 16:30 GMT+02:00 Frank Villaro-Dixon <fr...@villaro-dixon.eu>: > On 16-08-02 15:29:11, Michael Tsang, wrote 1.0K characters saying: > >> On Monday 01 August 2016 23:55:56 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> >>> sent from a phone >>> >>> > Il giorno 01 ago 2016, alle ore 17:51, Michael Tsang < >>> mikl...@gmail.com> >>> > ha scritto: >>> > >>> > What should I type in for the network=* tag for the bus routes such >>> that >>> > it is least surprising and least confusing for data users? >>> You have written a lot about operators, but these go into the operator >>> tag >>> on the relation, the network is more about fares I think: if you can use >>> the same kind of tickets it's the same network. >>> >> >> Cash and card can be used across the whole territory across different >> networks >> > > To me, `operator` is the company that drives the bus (say, "Bus drivers > Ltd") whereas `network` targets the global entity/company/consortium for > the group of lines. > > Generally speaking, a ticket bought on a network could be used on all the > lines of the said network (even if the `operator` is different) of course > following the network's rules. > > An operator (O₁) can drive busses of two different networks (N₁, N₂). A > network (N₁) can have many operators (O₁, O₂). A user buying a ticket for > N₁ can use all of N₁'s routes. > > > In Geneva for example, we have three main networks: TPG, Noctambus, > Mouettes. > > TPG routes are operated by: TPG, RDTA, … > Noctambus is operated by TPG > Mouettes is operated by SMGN > > But then there is a "master" network: Unireso. If you buy a ticket from > one of Unireso's networks you can use your ticket on all of Unireso's > routes. > > > What do you think ? > > > > -- > frank.villaro-dixon.eu - PGP: 6F36914A > Envie d'électricité 100% verte ? Enercoop.fr > What is a Velomobile ? www.sans-essence.eu > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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