Warin wrote on 07/04/2016 00:25:
> On 7/04/2016 7:28 AM, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
>> Marco Predicatori wrote on 2016/04/06 22:03:
>>> Hi everybody,
>>>
>>> this is my first try at proposals, so please be patient if I've
>>> messed up something:
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway%3Dfake_speed_camera
>>>
>>
>> -1, such tagging fails verifiability and is impractical.
>>
>> As you recognise in your proposal, those devices are often empty
>> housings that
>> could be loaded with a capturing device the other day. You might
>> add an additional
>> tag that the device is only occasionally active, but keep the main
>> enforcement tag.

Hi Tom,
enforcement tag? Do you mean highway? AFAIK "enforcement" goes into
the relation, not the node.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dspeed_camera

> The key intermittent might be useful to indicate that the camera is
> active on a random basis.
> wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:intermittent

Hi Warin,
this makes sense. But what if there can never be a camera, for
example because the installment lacks any hole or is too small? A
Key:fake?

I was thinking about a new tag altogether because it wouldn't
require any change on the rendering side, or on the navigation apps.
Besides, a "speed_camera" tag should mean that *there is* a camera,
just like a building or a bridge or a tower.

For example:
http://frink.bplaced.de/blitzer/#map=16/45.4045/10.6316
There's never been a camera in any of those 5 boxes, and the OSM
information in that area is totally useless. I don't think that's
what OSM is meant for.

-- 
Bye, Marco
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/marco69

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