Good timing, Colin. I was about to bring up what differentiates DIY from, say, a lumberyard or a steel yard, which focuses primarily on the materials wholesale and may (for example, Parr Lumber <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/294108329>) incidentally have a small hardware and paint shop (at radically inflated prices).
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Colin Smale <colin.sm...@xs4all.nl> wrote: > Large stocks of building materials and supporting construction materials > is what I would probably call a "builders merchant". > > > > http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/builders%27-merchant?q=builders+merchant > > But note the third example sentence: "The boundaries between builders' > merchants and DIY operators is becoming increasingly blurred." > > Buying enough stuff to put up a shelf might come under "DIY" but the same > stuff in quantities to build a new room extension is a different ballgame > and then I would search for a builders merchant in the area, not a DIY shop. > > //colin > > On 2016-02-11 11:31, John Willis wrote: > > > > Javbw > > On Feb 11, 2016, at 5:26 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > ot (they'd sell wire and nails/screws, glue, paint and even small amounts > of gypsum or cement, also smaller extruded metal profiles might be > available, or chainlink mesh, > > > Usually they sell small amounts of many materials for very tiny projects, > but usually the small amounts are for repairs of exists ting things. > > Many people repairing a toilet or a door may go to a hardware store. But > no one finishing a room or building a bathroom is. The DIY is for "you can > renovate the bathroom or build a deck" yourself - anyone should be able to > patch a hole in the wall or repair a leaky faucet - that isn't the DIY > meaning. I built a workshop in our garden from lumber and metal sheeting > from a DIY. I bought a specialty tool to repair an old sink at a hardware > store. > > Focusing on products available is the key. Making a distinction that is > easy for mappers to discern in wiki (or iD preset) without cracking the OED > and without having them make a judgment call on the quality of service (I > have met morons and well-versed professionals in both) are very good things > to avoid. DIY stores are open to the public - whereas many counties have > restrictions on certain types of materials available. Though a pro or > contractor may buy materials at a DIY shop, that is also not important - as > the DIY sells bulk building supplies to *anyone* - that is the important > part. > > Hardware shop: focus on: > > Tools (power, hand) > Hardware (fasteners, hinges, etc) > Consumables / paint > > And Minor stock of materials (small lumber, garden) > > ~~~~~ > > > DIY: focus on: > Large stocks of above, plus > > Focus on Large stocks of building materials. > > In addition, may include: > Large stocks of fixtures/ home appliances / Outdoor tools/ farm supplies / > landscaping supplies > > Large stocks of supporting construction materials. > > Again, we're in a world where the DIY shop (Home Depot) has crushed the > "general hardware" store (Ace), so there should be a lot more DIY stores in > some regions than "hardware" shops. > > Javbw > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >
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