On 15/11/2015 10:23 AM, jonathan wrote:
+1 Frederik
http://bigfatfrog67.me
On 14/11/2015 18:35, Frederik Ramm wrote:
André,
OSM is not a place for condolences in note tags.
I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but sticking to facts is what keeps most
conflicts out of OSM - if something is observable on the ground, we map
it, and if not, we (mostly) don't.
Emotions are one such thing we don't map.
Yes, a tragedy has happened, or more precisely a horrific crime; and
yes, you and I and many others wish to extend our hearfelt condolences
to the victims and their families. But OpenStreetMap is not the right
medium to do that.
+1
There are many places in the world where tragedy, crime and injustice
have happened on a grand scale. But we don't have condolence messages in
OSM at Auschwitz, Srebrenica, or Columbine, and for a reason - because
we as a community can't "feel" sympathy, only individuals can.
-1 Communities do 'feel' sympathy.
Organisations such as 'Red Cross' and 'Red Crescent' are the result of
people forming communities that are expressions of that sympathy.
How would
we decide where to put such messages and how to word them, and what
would we do in situations where a tragedy has happened but people
disagree about who's the victim and who the perpetrator?
Let's stick to facts on the ground and keep our emotions out of OSM,
hard as it may seem.
By Monday, you may like to send the URL to the Press.
Please don't. By giving the world the idea that OSM is a place to
express emotions, you will invite everyone to express theirs, and
certainly not all emotions are friendly and peaceful.
But let us hope that vandalism will not be added to terrorism.
That's exactly what you are inviting here. You may have the best
intentions but you're doing the wrong thing.
+1
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Expressions of sympathy are better placed in other organisations that
can better utilise it.
By Monday there may be requests for donations by these organisations,
support them.
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