I think the one to contact there is SimMoonXP - in the tiger upload these were highway=residential, he is the one who changed them to highway=unbuilt.
André Engels On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Hans De Kryger <hans.dekryge...@gmail.com> wrote: > The example above i mentioned > (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/5987185/history) i'm guessing i shouldn't > contact anyone since it was a tiger upload from 2007? > > Regards, > > Hans > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 2:02 AM, Hans De Kryger <hans.dekryge...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Thanks for getting back to me, if you have a list of them shoot it my way. >> I'll start working on them. >> >> Regards, >> >> Hans >> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 >> >> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:55 AM, GerdP <gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Hans, >>> >>> I think that is part of the problem, you always have to decide if the >>> way is of any use for others, else we could just use a mass edit. >>> Each case needs review and thinking, that's why I am asking for help ;-) >>> As long as you contact the original mapper I see no problem. >>> >>> Gerd >>> >>> >>> Hans De Kryger wrote >>> > Hey Gerd, >>> > >>> > Thanks for reaching out to me, i have to say I'm a little confused. The >>> > ways you mentioned were a mistake and were suppose to be tagged >>> > (historic,railway etc) i get. But like the example shown here (1) there >>> > seems to be no plausible reason for it? It seems to me that any >>> > examples >>> > which are similar to this need to be deleted. The original mapper can >>> > always be contacted beforehand. >>> > >>> > (1) >>> > >>> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?way=5987185#map=19/32.97970/-117.05502 >>> > >>> > *Regards,* >>> > >>> > *Hans* >>> > >>> > *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 >>> > <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13>* >>> > >>> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:03 AM, GerdP < >>> >>> > gpetermann_muenchen@ >>> >>> > > >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> Hi Hans, >>> >> >>> >> Yes, I think I need help, not only from you: >>> >> I've commented many of the changesets which introduced >>> >> new highway=* tags on ways which are rarely used. >>> >> >>> >> I learned that many of them were typos, often >>> >> highway=* should be historic=* or railway=* or >>> >> waterway=*. I think I can manage to cleanup those. >>> >> >>> >> If we decide to change those with tags values like pre_proposed, >>> >> paper, >>> >> design,not_yet_bla_bla to a note describing the reason why the >>> >> way doesn't yet deserve a highway=proposed tag >>> >> it would be great if the mappers would do that. >>> >> >>> >> I think the best way to do that without being to rude is to >>> >> change the highway tag to a note AND add a specific comment >>> >> to the corresponding changeset which introduced the tag, something >>> >> like "please review way 1234567, I've changed the rarely used tag >>> >> highway=xyz to a note. See also >>> > <link to this discussion> >>> > . >>> >> >>> >> I did that a few times now without any complains from the mappers, >>> >> so I hope that's okay. >>> >> >>> >> Gerd >>> >> >>> >> Hans De Kryger wrote >>> >> > Let me know if you need any help. >>> >> > >>> >> > *Regards,* >>> >> > >>> >> > *Hans* >>> >> > >>> >> > *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 >>> >> > <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13>* >>> >> > >>> >> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Gerd Petermann < >>> >> >>> >> > GPetermann_muenchen@ >>> >> >>> >> >> wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> Hi Hans, >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> that was my thought as well. I assume I have to check all the >>> >> suspicious >>> >> >> entries that >>> >> >> >>> >> >> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/highway#values >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> shows. The data is a bit out-aged now (2015-10-14 23:58 UTC) >>> >> >> >>> >> >> as I am constantly cleaning up but I think 842 different highway=* >>> >> tags >>> >> >> >>> >> >> are far too many, both for consumers and for newbies. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Gerd >>> >> >> >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >>> >> >> *Von:* Hans De Kryger < >>> >> >>> >> > hans.dekryger13@ >>> >> >>> >> > > >>> >> >> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 08:13 >>> >> >> *An:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools >>> >> >> *Betreff:* Re: [Tagging] WG: how to tag a "highway" that doesn't >>> >> exist? >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Thanks for the examples, i definitely disagree with both examples. >>> >> Makes >>> >> >> no sense to have those at all to me. In my opinion they need to be >>> >> >> reverted/deleted. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> *Regards,* >>> >> >> >>> >> >> *Hans* >>> >> >> >>> >> >> *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 >>> >> >> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13> >>> >> >> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13> OpenStreetMap >>> >> | >>> >> >> TheDutchMan13 OpenStreetMap is the free wiki world map. ... >>> >> >> "Changing >>> >> the >>> >> >> world one edit at a time" In love with OpenStreetMap! I mostly map >>> >> within >>> >> >> the borders of Arizona. Weitere Informationen... >>> >> >> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13> * >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Gerd Petermann < >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> > GPetermann_muenchen@ >>> >> >>> >> >> wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Oops, forgot to set the list on cc >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >> >>> *Von:* Gerd Petermann >>> >> >>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 07:21 >>> >> >>> *An:* Hans De Kryger >>> >> >>> *Betreff:* AW: [Tagging] how to tag a "highway" that doesn't >>> >> >>> exist? >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Example: >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/5987185 >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> which is just the first best from 130 "highway=unbuilt" ways, >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Its history shows that it was imported in 2007. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Just a few m south is another one: >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/199739291> >>> >> >>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/199739291 >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> which doesn't have a long history but seems to be >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> exactly like it. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Gerd >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >> >>> *Von:* Hans De Kryger < >>> >> >>> >> > hans.dekryger13@ >>> >> >>> >> > > >>> >> >>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 01:09 >>> >> >>> *An:* OpenStreetMap >>> >> >>> *Cc:* Gerd Petermann >>> >> >>> *Betreff:* Re: [Tagging] how to tag a "highway" that doesn't >>> >> >>> exist? >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Do you have any examples? >>> >> >>> On Oct 15, 2015 12:27 PM, "Mateusz Konieczny" < >>> >> >>> >> > matkoniecz@ >>> >> >>> >> > > >>> >> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:35:08 +0000 >>> >> >>>> Gerd Petermann < >>> >> >>> >> > gpetermann_muenchen@ >>> >> >>> >> > > wrote: >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> > Hi all, >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>>> > forgive me if this was discussed before: >>> >> >>>> > There seems to be a need to map highways which do not exist. >>> >> >>>> > I understand the idea that we map highway=proposed / >>> >> highway=planned >>> >> >>>> > as this might be used to visualize a plan, I can also >>> >> >>>> > understand >>> >> that >>> >> >>>> > we have tags like highway=dismantled and highway=razed (which >>> >> >>>> > seem >>> >> to >>> >> >>>> > mean the same) but why do we have ways with >>> >> >>>> > highway=x-residential , highway=unbuilt , highway=neverbuilt, >>> >> >>>> > and >>> >> >>>> > several more with similar meaning ? >>> >> >>>> > They all seem to describe ways which where once added as normal >>> >> >>>> > highway=* to the database and later someone found out that >>> >> >>>> > there >>> >> is >>> >> >>>> > no highway, but did not dare to remove the way. >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>>> > Is that meant to document something important? >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>>> > Gerd >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> Purpose of such objects is to ensure that armchair mappers will >>> >> >>>> not >>> >> >>>> remap it again. Object with note=* seem better than >>> >> highway=neverbuilt. >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> In case of low risk of remapping by armachair mappers such ways >>> >> >>>> may >>> >> be >>> >> >>>> safely deleted. >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >>>> Tagging mailing list >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>> >> > Tagging@ >>> >> >>> >> >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >>> Tagging mailing list >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >> > Tagging@ >>> >> >>> >> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >> Tagging mailing list >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> > Tagging@ >>> >> >>> >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > Tagging mailing list >>> >> >>> >> > Tagging@ >>> >> >>> >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> View this message in context: >>> >> >>> >> http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/how-to-tag-a-highway-that-doesn-t-exist-tp5857111p5857819.html >>> >> Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Tagging mailing list >>> >> >>> >>> > Tagging@ >>> >>> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >> >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Tagging mailing list >>> >>> > Tagging@ >>> >>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/how-to-tag-a-highway-that-doesn-t-exist-tp5857111p5857821.html >>> Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- André Engels, andreeng...@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
