Hi John, This is pretty much the type of situation which the taxon tag is meant to cope with: current tagging says it's an apple orchard, with taxon we can show that it's one for Bramley's or the cider apples loved by RichardF. "taxon=Malus domestica 'Bramley's Seedling'" This can be used with species & genus too; but most useful is the usage widely used by the Vienna tree import: "taxon:cultivar=Bramley's Seedling" (in this case the single quotes obligatory in the formal name are not needed because all cultivar names require them. This can be used standalone, on the basis that trees=apple_trees is a synonym of species|taxon=Malus domestica. Your next problem is to identify the cultivars: not easy with cherries in Japan. Jerry From: johnw <jo...@mac.com> To: strategy and related tools Tag discussion <tagging@openstreetmap.org> Sent: Tuesday, 15 September 2015, 0:52 Subject: [Tagging] Orchards and their crops I came across some mis-tagged orchards in Japan, and in the process of researching how to tag them correctly, I noticed some discrepancies in the EN and JA wiki pages for orchards, trees, and related things. the JA page for orchard includes the trees= definitions, for example. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dorchard Englishhttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Tag:landuse%3Dorchard Japanese
My question to the group is how to deal with trees=* when it seems to be very generic (apple tree, pear tree, etc) and more specific kinds of crops (fuji apples, asian pears). crop=* for orchard was changed to trees=* - but how do we get more specific on what kind of fruit is grown? do we make a ton of different tree=* tags, or do we make generics and then specify the exact fruit produced through produce=* or some other tag? Also, someone has added a ton of trees to the JA list (and a few to the EN list), including cranberries - which are grown in a swampy bog - hardly an orchard. Should be at least in farmland+crop, possibly some form of wetlands. I cleaned up the entries on the ja page by added “trees” to the items, and striking out sugarcane and cranberry, but I didn’t delete any other entries. I didn’t touch the EN page. I can clean up the JA page to match the EN page, but I need to know how do deal with the trees and what they produce: are the trees=* a very specific type of tree, or are they general - and how do we specify the exact type of fruit produced? apples, oranges, pears, peaches, have regional varieties - and custard apples and asian pears (sand pears) may be considered so different from their normal varieties as to warrant their own tree and rendering. If I’m reading the english wiki pages for orchard=, trees= and produce= correctly, keeping the trees generic and the specific fruit in produce= seems to be right way. I added one example to the JA wiki page for asian pears: landuse=orchardtrees=pear_treesproduce=sand_pear so fuji apples would be landuse=orchardtrees=apple_treesproduce=fuji_apples Is this the right way to handle it, and should it be documented this way? Javbw _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
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