The definition of the cycle network you to complain about can be found in http://www.radverkehrsnetz.nrw.de/RVN_home01.html. <http://www.radverkehrsnetz.nrw.de/RVN_home01.html> You can't break it into routes, it is a network. And ref=NRW is not so bad, the complete name would be ref="Radverkehrsnetz NRW". If you think that is better ...

The new, junction-node based system is based on routes, for an example you may check http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4257206

best regards, Kurt


On 16-Aug-15 12:21, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
I've encountered two fairly widespread issues with bike route tagging and would appreciate help sorting them out.

In parts of Germany and elsewhere, networks of local/regional cycle routes are grouped into regions. The Nordrhein-Westfalen network is a good example.

The master relation
http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/33216#map=10/50.5815/6.7992&layers=C is tagged with type=network, which is perhaps appropriate (insert usual 'Relations are not categories' citation here).

However, its child relations are tagged with type=route:
    http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/222572
which is not appropriate. As the osm.org geometry shows, this isn't a route, it's a collection or network of routes.

A second issue is the misuse of the ref= tag in these relations. The ref= tag is intended for a number that appears on a sign or other on-the-ground evidence. It is not "some arbitrary bunch of letters I made up to get it to render". However, it's being used as the latter in this (ref=NRW) and many similar cases.

The most "correct" way forward would seem to be:

    - break the child relations up into individual routes
    - group these together within a parent type=network relation
    - remove the ref tags

The first step would, of course, be Hard Work.

Thoughts and suggestions welcome.

cheers
Richard

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