On 3/07/2015 1:37 AM, André Pirard wrote:
On 2015-06-30 14:04, Marc Gemis wrote :
Everything between quotes is considered a comment, and can contain
values in the local language (e.g 123 "nach␣Vereinbarung"
<http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/opening_hours=%22nach%20Vereinbarung%22> --
German for by appointment)
IMHO this means that there is nothing to formalize. This also means
that ..."Sa 09:00-18:00 + appointment" is a comment and nothing has
to be parsed.
This should be ...; Sa 09:00-18:00; "Sa also by appointment"
see also
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours/specification
at the bottom.
m.
Marc, it is not a matter now of formalising, but of documentation in a
simple easily understood form.
IMVHO, documentation improvement and some sort of formalization is
needed because:
* I had asked the same question here before in the same terms
("appointment") and it is asked again
* I had overlooked "on appointment" 10 times in a page that states
rules in examples "to be grasped"
* Key:opening_hours
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours> does not
contain the word "comment" and, as I read before, mappers don't
have 15 min to spend reading the full specification down to the end
* comments should be explained in the syntax, including explicitly
that they're used to be displayed on user screen, because this
example doesn't seem to be the case : /"on appointment"; PH off
"But not on public holidays (always closed). You don’t need to
write this comment for values in OSM. Documentation purpose only."/"
* and probably add "by schedule (see Web page)" for scheduled
occurrences
* I've had a look at Osmand and, albeit they show opening-hours,
they will *not* show opening_hours="by appointment".
* if Osmand did not understand the doc, there *is* a problem (IMVHO)
* I first wanted to improve my "simplified syntax" with this, but as
I was scolded for writing it and as as it got erased, I will let
you do that.
Cheers
André.
Thanks André.
The secondary syntax page is written in computerees ... understandable
by those practised in that language. For the general public it is not
understandable.
I'll be making some entry to the wiki that makes a simple clear
statement of how to add "by appointment" to the opening hours ... and
will resist any deletion of such. In fact I'll add the reasons for that
to the discussion page and the syntax pages' discussion page in order to
dissuade deletion of the added text.
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