Op maandag 29 juni 2015 heeft André Pirard <a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven: > On 2015-06-29 18:55, Holger Jeromin wrote : >> André Pirard wrote on 29.06.2015 17:08: >>> Ruben Maes <ruben.mae...@gmail.com> Wrote in message: >>>> After the proposal Donation was rejected, I tried to address the >>>> issues that were raised in a new proposal using >>>> healthcare=blood_donation: >>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Blood_donation_2 >>>> You are of course welcome to point out any flaws. >>> Like I said, could you please in your proposal *stress* that healthcare >>> is not an object but an attribute of an object. >>> There is no such thing as "a healthcare" on a map but a building can be >>> used for healthcare. >>> Then, healthcare is an attribute of that building. >>> Out of curiosity, I've had a look at Key:healthcare >>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:healthcare> and it's exactly >>> what it says: >>>> ... add *healthcare*=* to to an area that has building >> Is this (5 years later) really still true? I am quite happy with my >> (indoor tagging) node: >> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1227761407#map=19/50.77699/6.04469 > What is "this"? > My remark concerns mainly areas (buildings). > But it's also interesting to know what a node represents (what > healthcare is an attribute of). >> Is a restaurant or hotel also a attribute to an object? > Of course it is. > They are the attributes that make a building (usually) suitable for > catering and accommodation. > >>> You should give an example of for example a school where blood_donation >>> takes place: >>> >>> building=school >>> or >>> building=yes >>> school=yes >> Eeks, not a good example tag :) > If you think so, you should say why and what you propose. > Not just the usual "no". > I think that such a page should teach the reader how to tag healthcare > taking place in a school.
I have yet to see a permanent blood donation centre at a school, but I would just place a node with the healthcare tags in the school area and call it a day. Adding everything on the school boundary seems very odd to me, I have never seen that done. For renderers, I think it must be a nightmare. I know we're not supposed to tag for the renderer but any data consumer would have trouble interpreting dual-tagged objects. So to me, healthcare=blood_donation is pretty stand-alone (just like shop=*) and not an attribute of a school, a shop or even a hospital for that matter. I'd use it on a node without any other tags, but on a way of course with building=yes or whatever tags are relevant. (Also see the examples on the proposal page – do you agree with them or would you tag them differently?) I could add a piece about making sure to use a building tag to the page, but IMO then we'd have to do that on the wiki pages for all shops, most amenities, etc... Actually that might not be a bad idea? We could write a template and include it on those pages. I've seen people using JOSM not including building tags quite a few times. --
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