I think the table is basically correct. I added showers, amended the
pitches and added access hours. In Europe it is very common that no pitches
are defined. Staffing=yes means that during at least defined period of the
day (say 7:00-10:00 and 16:00-20:00). Usually you are not able to register
beyond these hours. Guarded depends on the region: in Europe usually not,
in Africa definitely yes.



Standard

Designated

Trekking

Informal

Fee

Significant

No/Nominal

No/Nominal

No

Toilets

Yes

Possibly

No

No

Showers

Yes, usually hot

No

No

No

Power

Usually

Rarely

No

No

Water

Yes

Sometimes

Maybe

No

Washing

Usually

Rarely

No

No

Staff

 Yes

Rarely

No

No

Pitches

Yes/No

Rarely

No

No

Official

Yes

Yes

Usually

No

Access

Restricted hours

24/7

24/7

24/7
  ​
*To me, and I think others agree, designated means official. Any place
where people camp in a specially prepared environment has been "designated"
at some point, either by the government or a business owner; designated to
be a campground. To base an entire category on this term is misleading IMO.*
I see your point, but do we have a better phrase? Basic? Overnight?

*@Jan - yes, I suppose the camping areas I'm talking about could be
category #2 if you get rid of the adjective "nominal" for the fee. Just say
they "may be free or charge a fee" because these days camping fees are
anything but nominal, at least in my opinion.​*
OK​

*I say get rid of #6 entirely. Tagging an entire state as an area where
camping is permitted, like Alaska, is problematical at best.​*
​OK​

*​I am happy with "camp_site=informal" (unlike Martin), pretty much says
what it is supposed to say. I expect it would be rendered differently or
not at all in most cases. We could make that clearer in the text ?​*
​I can see Martin's point. It is like the fuel discussion: you don't want
to mix the regular filling stations and the drums.​

*​And just live with it like that ?  I really like the category
approach but worry that we are not going to make it work. What would need
to happen is to improve the documentation for the tourism=camp_site and,
then, maybe fill in a few missing tags. That interestingly, is where
we were some months ago and saw the spin out of sanitary_dump_station=
and waste= proposals.​*

​In any case I want to keep the separation between designated (in the
broader sense), non designated (not much discussed here, but for me the
most important reason to start the topic) and informal. We could decide to
recombine the current *Standard*, *Designated *and *Trekking.* Indeed we
could leave the other details to attributes.

Regards,

Jan


Met vriendelijke groet/with kind regards,

*Jan van Bekkum*
www.DeEinderVoorbij.nl
_______________________________________________
Tagging mailing list
Tagging@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Reply via email to