> On Feb 27, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 2015-02-27 9:07 GMT+01:00 johnw <jo...@mac.com>:
>>  I read the wiki entry on steps 
>> (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dsteps) and the discussion 
>> page, 
>> 
>> and besides the discussion on which direction means uphill (that really 
>> needs to be decided),
> 
> 
> I had assumed for years that the direction pointing upwards was a commonly 
> agreed on standard, being myself an architect I hadn't expected this to be 
> questionable, but as I got so much flak from people insisting on the other 
> way round, I now am adding the tag incline=up to all steps. This way you 
> remove any ambiguity and introduce some further stability also for cases 
> where the way direction gets inverted. No need for any (IMHO unachievable) 
> decision any more ;-)
> 
 
We need to have this standardized - just  like waterways and walls - ascent or 
descent should be implicit in path direction. 

There should be a standardized.

If that is impossible, then at least the ascent/descent tags should be 
standardized- 

Ascent=yes / reverse or -1 or however the one way tag works, or the 
direction=ascent /descent or incline or something - just anything that's 
standardized. 
>  
>> can I use steps to define an area, just like highway=pedestrian? 
> 
> 
> There is the area relation proposal which deals explicitly with this 
> (type=area), but it isn't supported by any data consumer AFAIK.
> Please note that you have to create a new relation for every continuous part 
> of stairs (i.e. the stair landings are not included).
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Area#Area-steps.2C_steps_which_are_wide_and.2For_irregular
> 
> Might sound complicated but it is actually quite easy to model:
> 
> 1. create an empty relation and add the tags:
> type=area
> highway=steps
> (and more like step_count, surface, etc.)
> 
> 2. draw the upper delimiting way of the steps (border where the last riser 
> is) and add it with the role "upper" to the relation
> 
> 3. draw the lower delimiting way (border where the first riser is) and add it 
> with the role "lower" to the relation
> 
> done.
> 
> if you want you can 
> 
> 4. draw the lateral boundaries and add them with the role "lateral" to the 
> relation (suggested for non-linear lateral boundaries only).
> 

Is that something I can do in iD? I'll have to read up about relations. I've 
only ever edited a couple, and that didn't exactly go well. 

Javbw



> cheers,
> Martin
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