I forgot about this case, too, even though it's increasingly common in the US (ostensibly to help cyclists get out of the door zone and feel more comfortable cycling, but inevitably this arrangement causes an inescapable curbside door zone, pedestrians not looking to cross a lane of traffic between the parking and the curb, people leaving cars in the bicycle lane, people leaving garbage bins in the bicycle lane, and really everything else you can imagine going wrong with half-assing the dutch model...
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 5:45 AM, Martin Vonwald <imagic....@gmail.com> wrote: > Yesterday I had the following case on a dual carriageway - lanes from left > to right: > * two regular lanes > * one shoulder > * one bicycle lane > > Sometimes the shoulder changes to a turning lane and back to a shoulder > after a junction. There is no physical separation whatsoever of all those > four lanes. Additional bicycle lanes may also be present. > > Regards, > Martin > > > > 2015-02-03 12:33 GMT+01:00 Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org>: > >> Unless I'm way off, maybe a gore point? Transition into a traditional >> toll plaza? >> On Feb 3, 2015 5:30 AM, "Colin Smale" <colin.sm...@xs4all.nl> wrote: >> >>> A shoulder lane in the middle of the carriageway? Maybe you can >>> illustrate your scenario. >>> >>> Under normal circumstances (one way per carriageway) >>> shoulder=left/right/both should cover it. >>> >>> Or am I misunderstanding what you mean by "shoulder"? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2015-02-03 12:23, Martin Vonwald wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> 2015-02-03 12:18 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale <colin.sm...@xs4all.nl>: >>> >>>> That's an easy one: shoulder=yes. >>>> >>> Can you please explain to me, how this answers the question WHERE the >>> shoulder is? It does NOT have to be the leftmost or rightmost lane. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing >>> listTagging@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >
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