On 11.01.2015 14:34, Kotya Karapetyan wrote:
I like the proposal. In Germany and in the Netherlands these machines
are common and it is indeed important to know where one can find the
nearest one. They are usually not operator-specific, though the
voucher they issue can be redeemed only within the operator shop (or
network).
Indeed yes, but the machines are usually operated by a market chain and
since I am always proclaiming that some operators only allow their own
products to be refunded, we would at least need this option to keep the
information about the operator.
Remark 1: I wonder if we also want to indicate whether the machine is
inside or outside the shop and if it is accessible outside working
hours.
Good point. As far as I know these machines are always inside (at least
in Germany, Denmark, and Finland). They are sometimes located inside of
a market or in a separate small "room" that is accessible directly with
its own opening hours.
I like the idea of using
amenity:refund_machine
service:refund=yes
refund:plastic_bottles=yes
refund:glass_bottles=yes
refund:cans=yes
refund:crates=yes
Using the opening hours tag seems also appropriate, if the machine is
located in its own room/building-part.
I reconsidered the idea of using vending_machine or shop as a "parent"
tag for refund machines, since it just is not right. These machines are,
as mentioned above, sometimes more separate and should not be mixed with
normal "manual" refund services that shops offer.
Remark 2: Also some shops have multiple such machines (e.g. for glass
and plastic), and OSM tagging scheme doesn't allow assigning the same
key twice to one node. As a suggestion, we could ignore the fact that
these are two (or more) separate machines and map it as one.
This seems a bit unclean and a quick-fix. I would suggest to use the
idea of ATM machines in this case and give each of those machines its
own node. Especially since it happens that there are two machines, where
only one of them accepts crates to be refunded ( see picture [1], taken
in Finland). Furthermore, if people have a lot of refund to give, they
might choose a refund point with at least 2 machines.
Regarding the recycle type tag, with the suggestion above, we wouldn't
use the same key twice.
[1] Reverse Vending Machines in Finland, one of which accepts crates:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bottle_reverse_vending_machines#mediaviewer/File:Pullonpalautusautomaatti.JPG
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