On 22/12/2014 11:00 PM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote:
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 12:53:53 +0100
From: Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com>
To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"
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Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Obligatory vs.
optional cycletracks)
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In Belgium the cyclist always have to use the cycleway, except
- the path is in bad condition (glass, snow, holes, ...)
- Children on small bikes
- groups of cyclists.
- for some special turns (see page 10 of
http://webshop.bivv.be/frontend/files/products/pdf/2fea42ac8b1b22e59ef8d5ea77aaf906/fietsersendewegcode.pdf
)
regards
m
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Colin Smale <colin.sm...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
In NL I think it is similar to Germany. The definition of the sign is
"verplicht fietspad" i.e. compulsory cycle track. When the cycle track runs
adjacent to a road the intention is clear, but the sign is interestingly
also used for cycle paths through the middle of the countryside with no
adjacent road. One might interpret this as "you MUST follow this path, even
if it goes in the wrong direction for you"....
Colin
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I think the only need for 'obligatory cycleway' is to remove bicyclist
from certain roads! e.g.
I'm bicycling north to south.. there is an obligatory cycleway 1000 kms
west of me ..
Do I have to use it? No. Totally unreasonable.
Or is it only obligatory for the adjacent road? Yes. In which case the
road can be tagged bicycle=no ... if I don't want to use that
'obligatory cycleway' I could then find another road .. possibly further
away, but I could avoid both that road and that cycleway. Thus the
'obligatory cycleway' applies to those bicyclists trying to use that one
road.
Same situation for the 'compulsory cycle track' if no other path exists
then you have to use it, if there are other paths then mark the other
paths as bicycle=no, as the situation demands.
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Marc In some states of Australia I can bicycle on any footpath, in others I
can if I'm under 12 years old or accompanying that child. I don't tag that, I'd
not tag those complex exceptions in Belgium either.
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