On 2014-12-18 14:42, Friedrich Volkmann wrote:

On 17.12.2014 23:23, Colin Smale wrote:

In the UK "designation=" is in wide usage for this. I don't know if it is typically a UK thing (it wouldn't surprise me) but local governments sometimes have the right to change their "style" - for example a "civil parish" can choose autonomously to call itself a "community council". It can also choose to call itself a "town council" although I suspect this needs cooperation from its parent authority. And a council can become a "city council" basically only through a central decision.

I think that the name of the council does not matter.

Exactly, that's my point. A simple civil parish and Salisbury City Council are administratively equivalent and are both tagged designation=civil_parish. This tagging should not, however tempting or logical some people might think it, be based on the name, but on the legal/constitutional status.


Some "districts" (admin_level=8) have the status of "borough." All this doesn't change the legal powers and responsibilities of the council, it's all about what they are "called". There's a lot of snobism involved as well... I have tried to summarise a tagging scheme for UK local authorities here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Csmale/ukboundaries [1]

So far we have destination=* for the UK, official_status=* for Russia, and name:prefix for other countries. That diversity makes the tags essentially unusable for applications. It's a pity that every national OSM community
make up their own tags, without caring what others do, as if there were
berlin walls around each country.

Finding the right balance between universal, world-wide tagging and local conventions (at whatever level) is one of the biggest challenges we have. Usually any attempt at formalisation gets either shot down in flames by a vociferous minority or ignored by the silent majority.


Personally I don't care if the key is admin_title=*, designation=*, or
official_status=*. We just should decide for one.

+1 from me, good luck with getting the consensus, and then getting the "loser" to retag everything...

Links:
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[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Csmale/ukboundaries

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