Re: [Tagging] RFC: crossing=*

[André Pirard]

On 2014-07-22 11:43, André Pirard wrote : I have mentioned without much follow-up a similar issue with highway=crossing + crossing=*. What OSM calls "crossing", zebra stripes, is in fact a "passage pour piétons" which does not necessarily cross. In Belgium (too), we have quite a number of "passages pour piétons" painted longitudinally and it makes sense. Children's safety, for example, is just as important if they have to walk alongside on the road. Or it may be painted across a parking lot, in which case mapping highway=crossing ways make sense. crossing=* alone (which, as a highway=* tag implicitly means highway:crossing) is sufficient. So, I am proposing: to allow crossing=* on any highway=* when the painting is longitudinal crossing:right=yes, crossing:left=yes in that case highway=crossing for a way painted across an area In summary of the replies that were received: I have tagged, occasionally, longitudinal "zebra" markings as designated foot-way, which seems to me better than "crossing" on ways. Unfortunately, this is incorrect and even "tagging for the renderer". A foot-way is for exclusive usage by pedestrian while cars can drive on a "pedestrian passage". The objections were all based on a misunderstanding. A "pedestrian passage" is made for the pedestrians to safely walk on the highway where the vehicles run. That's generally for crossing but not exclusively. Below is a school access where the children first cross the main road and then cross too, but longitudinally, the way that parents follow after dropping their children. Further below are more kinds of unusual pedestrian passages. It is not because those passages (and pictures) are rare, because they would exist (mainly?) outside of the UK and because the word "crossing" is deceptively too restrictive that OSM should not support them. Hence my proposition to support pedestrian passages on ways and even areas too. Regarding the word "crossing", no need to vote an additional framework in which the node would duplicate "crossing", it is sufficient  to clearly (re)define it. Let's point out that they always cross something and that it's no weirder than source:speedmax=zone30 or many things like that. Best regards, André.

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