On 07.04.2014 22:34, Stephan Knauss wrote: > Hi Robin, > > On 07.04.2014 22:11, Robin `ypid` Schneider wrote: >> I created two proposals for which the time to vote is over but there are no >> votes :(. Should we open the voting once again or what is the usual >> procedure in >> such a case? The proposals are: > > that "voting" for a proposal is nothing more than a rough indication of > the opinion of the people actually stated their opinion. > You could have asked at your local regular's table, in the forum or the > mailing list.
Sadly, my time is limited. Unfortunately I don‘t find much time for OSM at the moment but I try to support this awesome project with doing one thing and doing it well (which in my case is ... opening_hours ;) ). I know that writing an proposal and the real OSM data can and does differ in many cases. But even with that in mind, it is still a good idea to have a new feature documented somewhere, even if the feature is not very common. > > It's just a different tool to do the community communication process of > getting a common understanding about the meaning of specific tags. > > If no one is interested in your tags, then probably it's of no use to > the community. > And we're too much of a Do-ocracy in this case. No one is interested in > people solving problems which only exist in theory. > > If your tool can evaluate a specific patter, then do it and document it. > If it's reasonable then people will follow that tagging. If not a > discussion will arise in the future. Sounds good. I did this already but then I learned about the proposal process and it worked quite well in the past: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/opening_hours_open_end_fixed_time_extension But if no one (or only a few) are interested in the topics I came currently across that is ok. It helps if there are pages on the wiki where a issue was already documented and some solution where introduced. > > I would imagine most people would handle places without a specific > opening hour similar I would do. If it's not possible to specify some > "core" hours which are certainly open, I would not specify at all. > It's simply not possible to evaluate it automatically with a reasonable > effort. So if a business refuses to tell me when they're open, then they > have to accept that software giving hints about "open now" won't list > them. Similar to the "open as long as customers are there" closing time... Sure but if they say you that they are only open during specific school holidays ;) This goes in the same direction as the question „Is this worth it?“ (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/opening_hours_open_until) which I did try to answer there. > > Stephan -- Live long and prosper Robin Schneider _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging