On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 03:50:30PM +0900, Satoshi IIDA wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> +1 to Tobias.
> 
> I feel it needs clarification for this tag scope.
> 
> I think it was "leisure=hot_spring" once,
> and switched to "natural=hot_spring".

exactly. 

> So the main purpose of this scheme is now "natural".
> Like to represent a geyser or some natural features, it seems.
> 
> So it is better to make another tag scheme to represent "Onsen" ♨ bathing
> facility.

as you mentioned we already have various methods to map bathing facilities,
thanks for pointing out leisure=public_bath.

So the idea is to have
natural=hot_spring - the hole in earth where hot water is comming out
+ natural=water - if there is a pool of water around it
+ water_characteristic - attached to both spring and water
+ all other related facilities mapped with their own well known tags such 
  as tourism=attraction, amenity=public_bath, leisure=beach_resort, 
  natural=beach, sport=swimming .. please add those which I have forgotten.

Some of those tags, like swimming need improvement which is independent from
this proposal.

water_characteristic is intended to be reusable for natural=spring and all
waterways and other water bodies.

> Many Japanese rural "tourism=hotel" has Onsen amenity.
> 
> # Some Japanese mappers use "amenity=public_bath" to represent "Sento".
> # "Sento" is like a spa, but more daily used amenity.
> # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sent%C5%8D
> 
> In my opinion, to represent a "Onsen Hotel",
> e.g.
> "tourism=hotel"
> "amenity=public_bath"
> "leisure=onsen"
> 
> or some combination. (yes, this is very draft!)

natural=hot_spring is for springs of natural origin. A leisure=onsen is 
orthogonal to this so those could be easily combined if the onsen is from
a natural source. Otherwise you would have just leisure=onsen.

Richard

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