Yes, it will be included in the new proposal.
PeeWee32 created an example of routing the SHORTEST way:
http://graphhopper.com/maps/?point=52.508705%2C13.273662&point=52.509385%2C13.270111&vehicle=BIKE&locale=nl
Am 14.12.2013, 14:25 Uhr, schrieb Erik Johansson <erjo...@gmail.com>:
I agree with Martin the voting is meaningless for this, you will have
to prove that this is usefull in some way first then post the proposal
again. Show us how routers should use the data and how invasive this
tagging is.
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Pee Wee <piewi...@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Martin
I understand what you are saying. With regard to routing I did not
expect we
had to explain why it could be improved by this new tag. There have been
some examples like this one showing that a router that wants SHORTEST
way
has no way of knowing it should not take the main road. Still routing
is a
difficult issue. And as some say... routing is not something to be
mapped as
a prime goal so our aim is to just focus on bicycle access. A better
routing
is then a spin off. Discussions about routing leads away from "bicycle
access" as the main goal. I think (but you never know ;-) ) it is
easier to
explain that bicycle access on these roads differs from roads with
explicit
ban or roads that allow cycling (always). Having said that.... it still
is
difficult to come to some sort of agreement but we're going to give it a
try.
Cheers
PeeWee32
2013/12/14 Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com>
2013/12/13 Pee Wee <piewi...@gmail.com>
Today the voting of the bicycle=use_cycleway ended. Voting results:
Yes: 10 (not counting the 2 that made the proposal)
No: 11
Abstain: 3
This is reason enough for us to work on a better proposal so we reject
the current one.
if you look at the reasons from the rejecters you'll find that the vast
majority of them neglected in general that this was something to be
tagged,
either they said the routing software should solve this (impossible
btw., if
there is no hint in the data, how should the router do it?), or they
existing tags would suffice (these said you should tag bicycle=no or
destination on the road, what is not working and has already been
discussed).
As these are the reasons for opposing this, a "better proposal" very
likely won't change anything (when the problem is not understood, no
solution will be agreed on).
cheers,
Martin
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