Compliance rates among amateur operators tend to be equal across all modes. Not that professional drivers don't have their moments, but that's the only group on the road that has a higher compliance rate than amateur motorists and bicyclists.
On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Jonathan <bigfatfro...@gmail.com> wrote: > :-) This whole discussion assumes cyclists obey traffic rules! In the UK > cyclists ride where they like! :-) > > http://bigfatfrog67.me > > > On 01/12/2013 21:38, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > >> On 1 December 2013 10:04, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I mean that bicycle=no bans bicycles from the road, while the actual >>> situation is that you have to use the cycleway if it leads where you are >>> going (and nothing bans you from using the road). If you want to turn >>> left >>> for instance but the cycleway goes straight, you can use the road. There >>> is >>> no ban of bikes on the road. >>> >> I don't think this is true in the Netherlands. Situations like you >> describe are quite rare in the Netherlands, but I did find one: >> >> https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Marconibaan,+Nieuwegein,+ >> The+Netherlands&hl=en&ll=52.02938,5.101267&spn=0.001149,0. >> 004823&sll=51.566277,5.062965&sspn=0.002574,0.004823&oq= >> marconibaan&t=h&hnear=Marconibaan,+Nieuwegein,+The+ >> Netherlands&z=18&layer=c&cbll=52.029299,5.10157&panoid= >> 3G1tWOtoUdO_1hUBl5deXw&cbp=11,219.58,,0,2.4 >> >> I would expect that cyclists are not allowed to turn left on this >> crossing at all, and I don't think they would be allowed to use the >> main road here. >> >> I'm also not sure why you think it is like you describe in Germany. It >> certainly is not explicitly written like that in the law. Could you >> point me to an example of such a crossing in Germany? >> >> Perhaps the answer depends on the meaning of 'leading into the same >> direction' in the convention: does making a turn qualifies as going in >> a different direction, or does it just refer to forward and backward? >> >> -- Matthijs >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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