On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:07 PM, alyssa wright <alyssapwri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It is my understanding that kindergarten means something very different in > other places of the world. How does OSM account for such cultural differences? Ant the wiki about "nursery" is redirecting to "amenity=kindergarten" ([1])... We have 3 challenges in this attempt to clarify the "kindergarten" tag : - cultural : the same words mean different things in different countries. Also the organizations, their legal status, age limits can be very different. The wikipedia article about "preschool education" is an indicator about this disparity. - combination : mixing different types of child care at the same location. Thus, we use either a new primary tag and subtags (e.g. your proposal) or create many primary tags applying on different OSM elements (e.g. "amenity=nursery" on separate nodes) - deprecate or redefine an old and well established tag in OSM (kindergarten). These three challenges made the vote of the first "child care" proposal rejected. That's why I'm laughing when I read that the vote proposal was rejected by a "gender gap in the OSM community" ([2]). I see mainly 2 options here: - go ahead with a new primary key "amenity=childcare" with subkeys. But this will imply to "deprecate" the "amenity=kindergarten" in long term. You have to know that this is very hard in OSM but not impossible, especially if you have good and valid arguments for the change. This will require a good wiki documentation, a large consensus and time. See the "power=station" long story as an example ([6]). - keep the "amenity=kindergarten" and create new "amenity" tags for your needs. It has also advantages : only one key, folllows the "duck tagging" principle ([4]). But you will not be able to combine the features on a single OSM element (enforcing people to create special nodes or polygons for tagging). About the differences between coutries, you might see how it was solved for international equivalences for "highways" ([3]) or "speed limits" ([5]) and create a similar page on the wiki (and filled by local contributors). My 2 cents, Pieren [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nursery [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/childcare#Post-mortem [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway:International_equivalence [4] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Duck_tagging [5] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Maxspeed [6] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dstation _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging