Hi,

On 10/04/12 03:17, A.Pirard.Papou wrote:
1) While the A name= of the relation is the name of the area, such as
London or Wales, the possible B name has nothing to do with the area.
The B name can be that of a river, of a road, or the border piece can be
immaterial or chosen not to be represent the physical way.
If the border line is immaterial, the name, if any, can be chosen
perfectly arbitrarily and serves only to identify the border line at
best when you look at configuration data or on the map.

In these cases I tend to omit the name tag altogether. After all, the immaterial line doesn't really have a name; what you are talking about is more of an "annotation", a "note", a "description" or somesuch.

Q1: which naming of border line piece do you consider valid and which do
you prefer?
Q1a: Municipality1 — Municipality2?
Q1b: Highest-level1 — Highest-level2 (Europe — Asia)
Q1c: Municipality1 — Municipality2 (Highest-level1 — Highest-level2) ?
Q1d: nothing

Q1d, clearly.

2) The admin_level itself is redundant in ways. It is in fact contained
in the boundary relations, and as it possibly has multiple values if the
border is for several area levels.

The consensus is to use the highest of all applicable admin levels. You are right in saying that it is redundant (as is the boundary=administrative tag, btw.) but it does make things easier for those users who simply want to draw a line on their map - they don't have to evaluate the, possibly broken, polygons for that.

3) One can make routes of routes, that is, relations of relations.
Or, at least, routes of hiking routes.  It seems that the recursion
support  is an application matter.
And we're ruled by chickens and eggs.
Hiking software has implemented recursion, then hiking routes, then more
software.
How extended is the recursion support of routes?
Could it be used for boundaries?

You mean like this

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1111111

or this

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/11980

As you can see, cascading relations are already in use for boundaries, it's just that nobody is really sure how to do it right ;)

My position has always been that there should be generic cascading for relations in any linear context, i.e. if you expect a way but get a relation then you will automatically use all ways in that relation and treat them as one long line. That would work for situations like the first example but not for the second where individual sub-regions have been collected into a larger whole - which also makes sense.

Bye
Frederik

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