Am Montag, den 20.02.2012, 20:11 +0000 schrieb Chris Hill: > On 19/02/12 23:38, Steve Bennett wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Chris Hill<o...@raggedred.net> wrote: > >> I do not agree with the whole basis of this thread. > >> > >> There are no such things as approved tags, tagging is open and people are > >> free to use *any* tags they like. > > ... > >> Advertise your ideas and encourage acceptance. Show how well it works any > > How would you know whether a tag had "acceptance"? Wouldn't > > documenting it somewhere make sense? Maybe...in a wiki? > I did say document and discuss the OP. > > What would you > > call "acceptance"? Would "approved" be a reasonable synonym for that? > No. It implies some official status that leads people to remove other > tags, sometimes with mass edits.
Chris, I've said nothing about mass or automatic editing. Every change will be done carefully and manually. > > The wiki and (currently broken) approval mechanism is not some > > horrible bureaucracy that exists to ruin your life. It's there so we, > > as a community, can document the tags we use, and agree on how we use > > them. While it's ok to spontaneously invent a new tag and use it to > > solve your current problem, you can surely see the benefits of > > everyone eventually converging on the same tag? > > > > And if so, what would you do with all the old tags that people used > > before you converged? Wouldn't you "deprecate" them? > > No, some tags will wither away, fine. Some seemingly similar tags will > exist side-by-side and that is fine too. Most importantly, distinctive > differences can emerge too. > > Just think this through. Approval implies some sort of enforcement, > without enforcement what is the point of approval? Just who would make > this enforcement happen and how? What would that do to an open project? > If only approved tags are used then how would mappers map what they > actually see? Wait weeks for some committee to discuss, argue and > approve or reject the tag? If you are free to use any tag, what is an > approval process for? > > If approval or 'acceptance' means a tag is rendered or used in a router > or whatever then which tool do you mean? There are hundreds run by OSM > and other organisations, companies and individuals. > > Flattening the tag structure by homogenising tags is destroying the fine > detail, sometimes carefully crafted by mappers and I will continue to > speak out against mass edits that attempt to do just that. It's just different tagging, no fine detail. Please show me the difference of the type=collection and the type=waterway relations we're talking about here. All the difference comes in the tagging history, when the australian mappers started with a different tagging stile than the european mappers. Regards Werner _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
