Am 30.04.2011 12:10, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer:
2011/4/29 Stefan Bethke<s...@lassitu.de>:
It appears that people have been using "car" as a key for this purpose.  Should 
I use that, and add an appropriate entry below motorcar=*?


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IMHO motorcar should be defined as automobile/car, and not be used as
a generic term including busses, hgv, goods and other. If we had car
and motorcar parallelly this would create a lot of confusion.

I'd also like to point at "motor_vehicle" which doesn't seem to be
defined reasonably (it includes all vehicles with a motor, like mofas
and mopeds with 25 / 50 ccm motors). In theory (by the name and
category) it would also include motor-boats, RC cars and spacecraft
;-) ("any motorized vehicle"). This is not a useful definition in
respect to traffic laws of the countries I know of (there is a
definition gap for a class that does not include for example mofas and
assisted bicycles).


I can only speak about German laws, since I don't know the situation in other countries. This is also how I see the situation.

"motorcar" is supposed to represent the class of "Zeichen 251" (shows a car from the front), which forbids all double-tracked motor vehicles (which includes hgv and buses etc).

"car" is supposed to represent the class of "Zusatzzeichen 1048-10" (shows a car from the *side*), which applies only to passenger cars (so no hgv or buses etc).

"motor_vehicle" is supposed to represent the class of "Zeichen 260" (shows a motorcycle from the side and below a car from the front), which forbids all motorcyles, mofas etc as well as all double-tracked motor vehicles.

So all these classes exist and are needed in Germany. The situation might be slightly different in other countries, but in a project like OSM, I don't think we can ever agree on a definition that fits every little detail and is applicable world-wide.

Best regards,
Sebastian

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