On Thu, 16.04.15 07:55, Andrei Borzenkov ([email protected]) wrote:

> > >>> This isn't the first time or the only system. This particular one is an 
> > >>> old
> > >>> Athlon booted to F22 just updated last night. In order to try some 
> > >>> follow-up
> > >>> on a bug, I booted with drm.debug=14 log_buf_len=16M on cmdline. Somehow
> > >>> after exiting IceWM back into KDM, the system quit responding. After 
> > >>> some
> > >>> waiting, I was switched to a tty full of systemd-journal failed to write
> > >>> readonly filesystem messages. How the system got / into a readonly 
> > >>> state I
> > >>> have no idea, but my complaint is $SUBJECT, the time it takes, or the
> > >>> complete failure, trying to reboot when there is a problem, often seeing
> > >>> failed to store sound card state or failing boot *start* jobs. Why has
> > >>> rebooting to get out of trouble gotten to be so nearly impossible?
> > 
> > >> Did you try to press CAD more than 7 times within 2s? This should
> > >> result in immedate reboot.
> > 
> > > My fingers and keyboards are old. I just hold CAD down until reboot 
> > > proceeds,
> > > or not. All that have repeat and delay configurable in BIOS are set to 20 
> > > cps
> > > & 250 delay. KDE I always set to same.
> > 
> 
> How long? systemd will enable watchdog on shutdown/reboot which fires
> off in 10 minutes by default I think.

Apparently the machie in question is an old Athlon, which means the
machine is so old that it is highly unlikely it already had a hw
watchdog on-chipset.

Lennart

-- 
Lennart Poettering, Red Hat
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