On Fri, 2012-10-26 at 22:05 -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > On Fri, 2012-10-26 at 21:50 -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > > On Fri, 2012-10-26 at 18:32 -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Michael H. Warfield <m...@wittsend.com> > > > wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2012-10-26 at 16:51 -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: > > > > > > > >> This should help. Obviously, journalctl should help you a lot as well. > > > > > > > > And journalctl gave me jack shit trying to figure this out and I really > > > > DON'T need yet another obscure command to dig out errors that should > > > > have been presented in the first place. > > > > > fine, be that way. > > > > Please stop using systemd. You're obviously not interested in actually > > > talking on a normal level to developers that can, and may actually > > > want to help you. > > Obviously, if I am to maintain an environment based on these > distributions, that is impossible. Fedora has made it abjectly > impossible to dispose of systemd an to even drop back to upstart at this > point. That is not an option.
> > Excuse me? I'm a kernel maintainer and a member of the Samba team. I > > have dedicated almost 2 decades to promoting and developing several > > dozen open source projects I will not enumerate here. BTW... Not to drop names (which I'm about to do) or anything and I know in a big organization not everybody knows everyone but... Just for references, if there is any question as to who I am, please check with Jeff Boerio <jeff.boe...@intel.com> or Bruce Monroe <bruce.mon...@intel.com> on your CERT teams in case there's some question about just who I am. I think they can provide sufficient references for me. > > I'm willing to help but I'm extremely frustrated at this point. When > > things don't work and I can't drill down to the reason and people give > > me platitudes I get frustrated. > > > Would you like access to this container? If you are on IPv6, I'll give > > you immediate root shell access. Send me and RSA key and I will send > > you the FQDN and give you sudo access! Then you can tell me! IPv4 > > would take a little longer. I've done this VMware and others. I > > believe in solving problems not making excuses for why it didn't work. > > Hmmm... I'll tell you what. I'll even set up your very own LXC > container running systemd at my colo facility (I have a rack at an ISP) > so you have lots of bandwidth to play with. I'll get it up and running > and you can access it and tell me what causes the errors that force me > to go through those manual steps. I'll provide you with a complete > development and test bed to make this work. I'll work with you. All in > my infrastructure and my resources. All I want is for this to work so I > can move beyond Fedora 15. How does that sound? I'm at your disposal. > > > > Auke > > Regards, > Mike -- Michael H. Warfield (AI4NB) | (770) 985-6132 | m...@wittsend.com /\/\|=mhw=|\/\/ | (678) 463-0932 | http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/ NIC whois: MHW9 | An optimist believes we live in the best of all PGP Key: 0x674627FF | possible worlds. A pessimist is sure of it!
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