Hi Oscar.

I agree with all of this in principle, but my experience is that it's
hard to get people to help out with updating the ideas page. And even
if I wanted to do it all myself, I don't know enough about some of the
ideas (like the ones in the physics submodule) to say anything about
them. I will say for a lot of the ideas I do know about, they are
actually still relevant, the issue is just that they are very
difficult so no one has ever been able to do them. It is worth keeping
them around in case someone actually comes along who can actually
manage them.

If you want to take a shot at doing this, you have my blessing. I
don't think it's necessary to move the current page to an "old" page
since the wiki already has an edit history. Maybe you can do it during
editing, but once it's done, we should delete the "old" page, as it's
just confusing otherwise. I already submitted the application with the
link to https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/GSoC-Ideas, so whatever is
on that page will be "the ideas page".

Aaron Meurer

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 12:54 PM Oscar Benjamin
<oscar.j.benja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Aaron,
>
> I think we should start by removing everything from the ideas page and
> moving it to an "old ideas" page with a clear note indicating that
> some might still be relevant but others are likely not. I don't think
> it is good to leave things on there and just let them roll over from
> one year to another.
>
> Each idea should be added each year by someone who is at willing to
> mentor the project in that specific year. Applicants can also look at
> the "old ideas" if they are considering proposing something that is
> not listed in the main ideas page.
>
> It would be better to have a small list of good, still relevant ideas
> that we are confident can be mentored and that have been recently
> checked to see that they are not out of date. I don't think that we
> can get to that without first just removing everything. If anyone
> wants to see something on the "official" ideas page then they should
> add it and list their name with a clear understanding that they are
> willing to mentor that project this year if there is a qualified
> candidate for the project.
>
> Many of the names listed as potential mentors are people I have not
> seen for some time. I don't really expect that they would mentor a
> project and I also don't expect that they would remove their name from
> the list: we should not carry that list of "potential mentors" over
> from one year to another. The same considerations apply to many of the
> project ideas that were added a long time ago by people who are no
> longer around and likely have no intention of mentoring any projects
> or updating the ideas page.
>
> Oscar
>
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 18:49, Aaron Meurer <asmeu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > It is time again for us to apply to Google to be a GSoC mentoring org.
> >
> > I need help updating the GSoC ideas page.
> > https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/GSoC-Ideas. If any ideas there are
> > already completed, please remove or update them. Also please add new
> > ideas, although you may want to discuss them here first if you aren't
> > sure about them.
> >
> > Secondly, we need to update the potential mentors page.
> > https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/GSoC-Ideas#potential-mentors. If
> > you were a student in the past I encourage you to mentor. Please add
> > your name there if you can mentor this year. If you can't mentor but
> > want to help review applications, just let me know.
> >
> > If you are someone who is interested in applying to SymPy for GSoC,
> > start here. https://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/GSoC-Student-Instructions
> >
> > Aaron Meurer
> >
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