Not sure at all why you say so.
 Adding extra output to the function is excess baggage in my opinion.
Indeed free_symbols is a great idea from the sympy developers. I understand
why technically one wants to give it as a set, because after all the names
are truly meant to be unique. What we need here is just a more transparent
conversion to lost or a block for when set are fed to lambdify.

I am  not very much expert with pull requests but I am working on one. I
just need to figure how to import my forked version of dumpy instead of the
one from pip. After that I can test my proposed change of lambdify.



On Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 18:47 Oscar Benjamin <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Roberto,
>
> If you have something like
>     expr = some_function(args)
> where some_function creates new symbols (not found in args) then
> ideally some_function should also return what the newly created
> symbols are or some other object that can tell you them:
>     expr, syms = some_function(args)
> I think that attempting to guess what symbols should be used in any
> context by inspecting free symbols is not a good approach.
>
> Oscar
>
> On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 at 14:28, roberto franceschini
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > The situation is the one in which I get a sympy expression out of a
> function that ends in `return my_polynomial_inRn` and now I want to pass
> this to another function (e.g. to make plots or whatever) without having to
> know the names of the symbols involved, which is exactly what free_symbols
> does for me in this instance.
> > Do you see another way around this?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 11:08 AM Oscar Benjamin <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Roberto,
> >>
> >> I already answered this on SO:
> >>
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/62798213/keep-the-order-of-parameters-fixed-in-sympy-lambdify-from-free-symbols/62800716?noredirect=1#comment111075099_62800716
> >>
> >> If you are using symarray to generate the symbols then you can get the
> >> list of symbols from the symarray directly and then pass those to
> >> lambdify.
> >>
> >> I can't think of any situation where it would be a good idea to use
> >> free_symbols to get the arguments to lambdify.
> >>
> >> Oscar
> >>
> >> On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 at 08:10, roberto franceschini
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hello, I have opened an issue for the input of lambdify. If you want
> to disallow sets as inputs I think it is fair. However, It would be nice to
> have that free_symbol can be given directly as input for lambdify, is that
> possible? should I use something else than free_symbols for this purpose?
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 9:55 PM Aaron Meurer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Can you open an issue in the issue tracker for this? I agree that
> sets
> >> >> should not be allowed.
> >> >>
> >> >> Aaron Meurer
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 3:08 AM Roberto <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have seen that lambdify wants a list for the arguments to be
> treated as symbols. This list can be also give as a python set, e.g. {x,y,z
> }, which is exactly what would be returned by a .free_symbol property. If
> lambdify is feed a set like that of the output of .free_symbol it may
> change their order in the conversion from set to list. This is done
> silently and may cause major disfunction in the use of the lamdified
> function because you think x is x, but is y instead and so on.
> >> >> > I would like to ask developers to check for the type of the
> lambdify list of arguments and throw a warning to flag that a set is being
> converted and that the ordering is not guaranteed.
> >> >> > Given that .free_symbols returns a set, not a list, this is very
> common pitfall in my opinion and must be prevented.
> >> >> >
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