> On Jan 28, 2025, at 1:48 PM, Arnaud Vié <unas.zole+a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> The usage of "acrostic" in this case is indeed semantically incorrect.
>
> According to the OSIS specification, the correct markup for a psalm canonical
> title is
> <title type="psalm" canonical="true">
> and it is perfectly allowed to occur before the first verse.
> The crosswire wiki mentions that, in this case, sword requires an additional
> attribute subType="x-preverse" on the title tag, though I'm not sure what the
> purpose of this tag is and if it affects your issue with searching.
>
subType=“x-preverse” is added by osis2mod. No one writing OSIS should need to
put that in. SWORD uses this to handle material that stands before the verse
number.
Early on pre-verse material was a heading. Later it could be more complex.
In a SWORD frontend it does something like this pseudo code.
if (showingHeadings or verse.headingIsCanonical())
output( verse.getHeading() )
output( verse.getVerseNumber() )
output( verse.getContent() )
Note, the above does not care if the module is OSIS, ThML, GBF, plain text, …
> As a side note, in many bibles, as you say, some psalm titles span several
> verses, and therefore the OSIS spec allows <verse/> tags in the middle of a
> psalm title - though currently sword does not support it because osis2mod
> does not transform the <title> tag to milestoned form.
>
Right. It doesn’t fit the pattern above.
What module exhibits this multi-verse title and in which Psalm? I’d like to
take a look at it.
> Regards,
>
> Arnaud
>
>
> Le mar. 28 janv. 2025, 13:12, David Haslam <dfh...@protonmail.com
> <mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com>> a écrit :
>> Thanks John,
>>
>> Aside: I'm puzzled by the use of type="acrostic" when the 125 Psalms with
>> canonical titles are nothing to do with acrostics, per se. Surely, that
>> attribute should be reserved for the 22 stanza headings in Psalm 119 ?
>>
>> There are Alternative Versifications in which the canonical Psalm titles are
>> assigned to verse 1 (or in a few cases to verses 1 & 2) with subsequent
>> verse numbers being offset by +1 (or +2).
>> I was not enquiring about modules that are for Bible versions like that.
>>
>> In the KJV and many other modules, the Psalm titles proper are before the
>> start of verse 1.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> David
>>
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>>
>> On Tuesday, January 28th, 2025 at 11:17 AM, Johan Marais
>> <johan.mar...@messianic.co.za <mailto:johan.mar...@messianic.co.za>> wrote:
>>> David.
>>>
>>> In our translation I set Ps 6:1 as:
>>>
>>> <image003.png>
>>>
>>> And a ‘normal’ search in Xiphos 4.2.1 returns 7 results:
>>>
>>> <image002.png>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Johan Marais
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sword-devel <sword-devel-boun...@crosswire.org
>>> <mailto:sword-devel-boun...@crosswire.org>> On Behalf Of David Haslam
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2025 10:45
>>> To: sword-devel mailing list <sword-devel@crosswire.org
>>> <mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org>>
>>> Subject: [sword-devel] Canonical Psalm titles and SWORD search?
>>>
>>>
>>> I just tried to search for the word 'Neginoth' using Xiphos.
>>>
>>>
>>> There were no results found!
>>>
>>>
>>> This word occurs in the canonical Psalm title for Ps.6 and five other
>>> Psalms.
>>>
>>>
>>> "To the chief Musician on Neginoth upon Sheminith, A Psalm of David."
>>>
>>>
>>> In view of the fact that canonical Psalm titles are translated from the
>>> original Hebrew, ought it not to be within the scope of SWORD search?
>>>
>>>
>>> Or is this merely a shortcoming of Xiphos?
>>>
>>>
>>> cf. Xiphos Advanced Search dialog allows search scope to look in footnotes,
>>> but there's no such option for titles.
>>>
>>>
>>> Of course, many Bible versions have non-canonical headings throughout the
>>> module, yet I'm not concerned with such in asking this question here.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
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