I'm very excited to have this module!
I agree with you that the module should have as much information as
possible. But not all of it can be read by the Sword interface. Some may
not be useful.
I've also had trouble with the "lemma:Mygreekword" code, in xiphos it's
not well displayed. If we want it well displayed we need to add a module
reference, like TR or Nestle (see KJV): "lemma.Nestle:Mygreekword"
You can also look at the LXX module, which has quite a lot of
information in its code.
The number is useful for displaying strong numbers in order (if I
remember correctly) in Bishop (Android).
Finally, if you think it's possible, I'd make an usfm file first,
because it's much easier to read and correct than an osis.
Have you also seen Karl's script for building the module, in the
BSB-draft module folder?
Finally, if there's a way of thinking about the construction method in
such a way that it would eventually be possible to make an identical
module in other languages (like French, for example).
Good work!
Le 30/09/2023 à 11:54, Timothy Allen a écrit :
The Berean Standard Bible is available in two machine-readable
formats: USFM, and "translation tables", a 40MB Excel spreadsheet with
a row for every Hebrew or Greek word in their chosen source texts with
the English text it's translated to. I would like to make one module
with the nice formatting of the USFM sources and the metadata from the
spreadsheet, so I've spent the last few weeks writing a script that
runs through them both in parallel and makes s
I agree with you that the module should have as much information as
possible. But not all of it can be read by the Sword interface. Some
may not be useful.
You can also look at the LXX module, which has quite a lot of
information in its code.
The number is useful for displaying strong numbers in order (if I
remember correctly) in Bishop (Android).
Finally, if you think it's possible, I'd make a usfm file first,
because it's much easier to read and correct than an osis.
Have you also seen Karl's script for building the module, in the
BSB-draft module folder?
ure everything lines up, so I'm now confident that I have an accurate
mapping between them.
My question now is, how can I translate the data from the spreadsheet
into OSIS?
Here's the information the spreadsheet gives me:
Column
Example
Notes
he_ordinal
1
"Hebrew Ordinal", increments for each spreadsheet row in the Old
Testament, set to 999999 for each row in the New Testament
el_ordinal
0
"Greek Ordinal", set to 0 for each row in the Old Testament,
increments for each row in the New Testament, except for Mark 1:1
which has a word with the number 18379.5 (presumably something needed
to be inserted and they didn't want to renumber everything else)
en_ordinal
1
"English Ordinal", increments for each spreadsheet row (except for
that word in Mark 1:1)
language
Hebrew
"Hebrew", "Greek", or sometimes "Aramaic"
verse_ordinal
1
Increments for each verse in the Bible, so every word in Genesis 1:1
has "1", etc.
source_word
בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית
The word in the original source text. Sometimes includes fancy
brackets to mark sources other than WLC or Nestle 1904: {TR} ⧼RP⧽ (WH)
〈NE〉 [NA] ‹SBL› [[ECM]]
transliteration
bə·rê·šîṯ
A transliteration of the source word into the Latin alphabet
grammar_code
Prep-b | N-fs
A code describing the grammatical form of the word; these don't
appear to be Robinson codes, but their own custom thing for Hebrew
(https://biblehub.com/hebrewparse.htm) and Greek
(https://biblehub.com/abbrev.htm)
grammar_description
Preposition-b | Noun - feminine singular
The grammar code, unabbreviated
strongs_number
7225
The Strongs number of the basic form of this word
translation
In the beginning
The English text that appears in the BSB
gloss
1) first, beginning, best, chief
1a) beginning
1b) first
1c) chief
1d) choice part
A definition from the Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew Lexicon, or Thayer's
Greek Definitions, as appropriate
Looking at the OSIS 2.1.1 User's Manual (and sniffing around in the
KJVA module), to represent this information in OSIS I should use the
<w> element, which supports the following attributes (copy/pasted from
the Manual):
* *gloss* Record comments on a particular word or its usage.
* *lemma* Use to record the base form of a word.
* *morph* Use to record grammatical information for a word.
* *POS* Use to record the function of a word according to a
particular view of the language's syntax.
* *src* Use to record origin of the word.
* *xlit* Use to record a transliteration of a word.
The first problem is that sometimes multiple source words are
translated into a single English span, and it's not made clear how to
express that in these attributes. From poking around in the KJVA
module, I get the impression these are supposed to be space-delimited
lists. Is that correct?
Assuming that's the case, here's my guesses at how to fill out these
attributes for each span:
* *gloss* can't be done, because each gloss contains spaces which
means the displaying app can't figure out which part of the gloss
goes with which word
* *lemma* is where Strongs numbers go; Greek Strongs numbers should
be prefixed with "G" and Hebrew/Aramaic ones with "H0"
* *morph* might be used for the "grammar code" content, but I would
probably need to figure out how to translate them into Robinson
codes first, since that seems to be the only morphological
dictionary module in the Crosswire repositories
* *POS* is unclear to me, I don't see how it differs from the
"morph" attribute
* *src* is also unclear: is this for the word order (he_ordinal or
el_ordinal, possibly numbered from the beginning of the verse
rather than the beginning of the entire Bible) or the actual
choice of source text (Nestle1904, TR, NA, SBL, etc.)?
* *xlit* clearly comes from the "transliteration" field
One thing that's clearly missing is where to put the source word. How
does that work?
Is there other way to represent information that doesn't fit into the
<w> element? I'd like this module to be as useful as possible, so I'm
hesitant to toss out any information that can be usefully represented.
Is there anything else I've missed or misunderstood?
Timothy.
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