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On 1/7/21 4:00 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > > Thanks Tobias, Timmy, and everyone contributing to this discussion. I > did a quick search and this page has been helpful. It recommends > opting out by using the requestLegacyExternalStorage options you've > also suggested, but if I understand things correctly, it says this > will basically make Android 10 work like Android 11 will work, so that > sounds promising. I need to make a few small updated to Bishop and > release a new build in the next days. I'll add the option and see if > we do better on Android 10 and I'll try both our oldest supported > Android 4.4 env and an Android 11 emulator to see how it goes across > the spectrum. > > Thanks again for having a look into this! > > Troy > > > On 1/7/21 2:21 PM, Tobias Klein wrote: >> >> Regarding the /sdcard issues I reported with Bishop I think it is >> actually due to the changes Google introduced in API level 29 / >> Android 10 (see Timmy's earlier post). >> >> I was previously compiling my Ezra Project debug app for API level 26 >> and there I didn't have issues reading/writing /sdcard. >> But with API level 29 / Android 10 I also faced issues >> reading/writing /sdcard with my test app (got a permission denied >> message in adb logcat). >> >> To fix that I added the following option in config.xml in the Android >> platform section: >> >> <edit-configfile="app/src/main/AndroidManifest.xml"mode="merge"target="/manifest/application"xmlns:android="http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/android";> >> <applicationandroid:requestLegacyExternalStorage="true"/> >> </edit-config >> >> @Troy >> Can you add that option to the Bishop configuration? I fear it >> otherwise cannot read/write /sdcard on Android 10 or later. >> >> See also: >> https://developer.android.com/training/data-storage/use-cases#opt-out-scoped-storage >> I have not found out yet how to use the new "Scoped Storage" model in >> native code (C/C++). The thing is that Google is already creating >> facts by not supporting the "legacy model" any longer starting from >> Android 11: >> *Caution:* After you update your app to target Android 11 (API >> level 30), the system ignores >> the |requestLegacyExternalStorage| attribute >> <https://developer.android.com/about/versions/11/privacy/storage#scoped-storage> >> when >> your app is running on Android 11 devices, so your app must be ready >> to support scoped storage and to migrate app data >> <https://developer.android.com/training/data-storage/use-cases#migrate-legacy-storage> >> for >> users on those devices. >> Best regards, Tobias >> >> On 1/2/21 4:37 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: >>> It's not used for anything in particular, just as a write test. We >>> used to store (I guess we still do) stuff in a [globals] section >>> like a directory to scan for new module when SWORD first starts up >>> and then it would install those, letting an external program or user >>> just dump stuff to a folder, which would get install the next time >>> their app started up. That was typically used when we supported >>> individual module downloads by users from our webserver, but we >>> discourage that now and instead encourage use of installmgr. >>> >>> Anyway, you found exactly the problem. SWORD couldn't write to >>> /sdcard/sword. >>> >>> I suspect maybe file permission? >>> >>> We should probably all read up on the changes Timmy mentions. >>> >>> I would try this, remove /sdcard/sword entirely and see what Bishop >>> does. >>> >>> I have had troubles myself making changes to my sdcard, using adb >>> shell to cd to /sdcard and mkdir xyz, then using a file browser and >>> looking on the sdcard and not seeing my folder. I wonder if it has >>> anything to do with the multiple profile support, i.e., can one user >>> take a photo to the sdcard and then change profiles on the phone and >>> have another user see that photo. >>> >>> Anyway, it seems we need to read and experiment a bit. >>> >>> Troy >>> >>> On January 2, 2021 2:49:52 AM MST, Tobias Klein >>> <cont...@tklein.info> wrote: >>> >>> Ok! >>> >>> Below is a full dump of adb logcat | grep libsword. >>> >>> Seems like this is the key section, though: >>> >>> 01-02 10:35:25.259 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> sword config not found, attempting to create parent of: >>> /sdcard/sword/mods.d/globals.conf >>> 01-02 10:35:25.260 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> saving basic: /sdcard/sword/mods.d/globals.conf >>> 01-02 10:35:25.260 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> sword config STILL not found, attempting to create parent of: >>> /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/mods.d/globals.conf >>> 01-02 10:35:25.262 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> saving basic: >>> /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/mods.d/globals.conf >>> >>> What is mods.d/globals.conf used for? It seems like this file is >>> missing in my existing SWORD file structure. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Tobias >>> >>> Complete log: >>> >>> 01-02 10:35:25.258 5450 5538 I libsword.so: LOOKING UP LOCALE >>> DIRECTORY... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.258 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking for >>> provided SWConfig("sword.conf")... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.258 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking working >>> directory for sword.conf... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.258 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking working >>> directory for mods.conf... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.258 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking working >>> directory for mods.d... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.258 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking working >>> directory ../library/ for mods.d... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.258 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking >>> $SWORD_PATH... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.258 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Parsing >>> /etc/sword.conf:/usr/local/etc/sword.conf... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.258 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking for >>> /etc/sword.conf... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.258 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking for >>> /usr/local/etc/sword.conf... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.258 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking >>> $ALLUSERSPROFILE/Application Data/sword/... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.258 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking >>> $HOME/Library/Application Support/Sword/... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.258 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking home >>> directory for ~/.sword... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.259 5450 5538 I libsword.so: LOOKING UP LOCALE >>> DIRECTORY COMPLETE. >>> 01-02 10:35:25.259 5450 5538 I libsword.so: LOOKING UP LOCALE >>> DIRECTORY... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.259 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking for >>> provided SWConfig("sword.conf")... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.259 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking working >>> directory for sword.conf... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.259 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking working >>> directory for mods.conf... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.259 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking working >>> directory for mods.d... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.259 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking working >>> directory ../library/ for mods.d... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.259 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking >>> $SWORD_PATH... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.259 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Parsing >>> /etc/sword.conf:/usr/local/etc/sword.conf... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.259 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking for >>> /etc/sword.conf... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.259 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking for >>> /usr/local/etc/sword.conf... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.259 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking >>> $ALLUSERSPROFILE/Application Data/sword/... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.259 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking >>> $HOME/Library/Application Support/Sword/... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.259 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking home >>> directory for ~/.sword... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.259 5450 5538 I libsword.so: LOOKING UP LOCALE >>> DIRECTORY COMPLETE. >>> 01-02 10:35:25.259 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() begin >>> 01-02 10:35:25.259 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> sword config not found, attempting to create parent of: >>> /sdcard/sword/mods.d/globals.conf >>> 01-02 10:35:25.260 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> saving basic: /sdcard/sword/mods.d/globals.conf >>> 01-02 10:35:25.260 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> sword config STILL not found, attempting to create parent of: >>> /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/mods.d/globals.conf >>> 01-02 10:35:25.262 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> saving basic: >>> /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/mods.d/globals.conf >>> 01-02 10:35:25.263 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: >>> extraConfig Exists at path: >>> /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/extraConfig.conf >>> 01-02 10:35:25.263 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> creating WebMgr using path: /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files >>> 01-02 10:35:25.267 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking at >>> provided path: /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.267 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Found mods.d/ >>> 01-02 10:35:25.267 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: WebMgr >>> c-tor(path: /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files, >>> extraConfPath: >>> /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/extraConfig.conf) >>> 01-02 10:35:25.267 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: >>> WebMgr::c-tor extraConfPath supplied: >>> /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/extraConfig.conf) >>> 01-02 10:35:25.267 5450 5538 I libsword.so: LOADING MODULE >>> CONFIGURATIONS... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.267 5450 5538 I libsword.so: LOADING MODULE >>> CONFIGURATIONS COMPLETE. >>> 01-02 10:35:25.267 5450 5538 I libsword.so: LOADING MODULE >>> LIBRARY... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.268 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: >>> WebMgr::createAllModules >>> 01-02 10:35:25.268 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: >>> WebMgr::createAllModules extraConfig supplied: >>> /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/extraConfig.conf) >>> 01-02 10:35:25.268 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: >>> WebMgr::createAllModules extraConfig exists. Augmenting modules >>> config >>> 01-02 10:35:25.269 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: >>> SWMgr::createAllModules >>> 01-02 10:35:25.269 5450 5538 I libsword.so: LOADING MODULE >>> LIBRARY COMPLETE. >>> 01-02 10:35:25.269 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> augmenting modules from: >>> /sdcard/Android/data/net.bible.android.activity/files >>> 01-02 10:35:25.269 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> augmenting modules from: /sdcard/sword >>> 01-02 10:35:25.269 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> adding locales from baseDir. >>> 01-02 10:35:25.269 5450 5538 D libsword.so: >>> LocaleMgr::loadConfigDir loading >>> /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/locales.d >>> 01-02 10:35:25.269 5450 5538 D libsword.so: >>> LocaleMgr::loadConfigDir loading >>> /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/uilocales.d >>> 01-02 10:35:25.269 5450 5538 D libsword.so: >>> LocaleMgr::loadConfigDir loading /sdcard/sword/locales.d >>> 01-02 10:35:25.269 5450 5538 D libsword.so: >>> LocaleMgr::loadConfigDir loading /sdcard/sword/uilocales.d >>> 01-02 10:35:25.269 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() end. >>> 01-02 10:35:25.413 5450 5538 D libsword.so: setting >>> STORAGE_BASE to: /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files >>> 01-02 10:35:25.416 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() begin >>> 01-02 10:35:25.416 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> sword config not found, attempting to create parent of: >>> /sdcard/sword/mods.d/globals.conf >>> 01-02 10:35:25.417 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> saving basic: /sdcard/sword/mods.d/globals.conf >>> 01-02 10:35:25.417 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> sword config STILL not found, attempting to create parent of: >>> /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/mods.d/globals.conf >>> 01-02 10:35:25.417 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> saving basic: >>> /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/mods.d/globals.conf >>> 01-02 10:35:25.417 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: >>> extraConfig Exists at path: >>> /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/extraConfig.conf >>> 01-02 10:35:25.417 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> creating WebMgr using path: /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files >>> 01-02 10:35:25.418 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Checking at >>> provided path: /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.418 5450 5538 I libsword.so: Found mods.d/ >>> 01-02 10:35:25.418 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: WebMgr >>> c-tor(path: /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files, >>> extraConfPath: >>> /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/extraConfig.conf) >>> 01-02 10:35:25.418 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: >>> WebMgr::c-tor extraConfPath supplied: >>> /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/extraConfig.conf) >>> 01-02 10:35:25.418 5450 5538 I libsword.so: LOADING MODULE >>> CONFIGURATIONS... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.419 5450 5538 I libsword.so: LOADING MODULE >>> CONFIGURATIONS COMPLETE. >>> 01-02 10:35:25.419 5450 5538 I libsword.so: LOADING MODULE >>> LIBRARY... >>> 01-02 10:35:25.419 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: >>> WebMgr::createAllModules >>> 01-02 10:35:25.419 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: >>> WebMgr::createAllModules extraConfig supplied: >>> /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/extraConfig.conf) >>> 01-02 10:35:25.419 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: >>> WebMgr::createAllModules extraConfig exists. Augmenting modules >>> config >>> 01-02 10:35:25.419 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: >>> SWMgr::createAllModules >>> 01-02 10:35:25.419 5450 5538 I libsword.so: LOADING MODULE >>> LIBRARY COMPLETE. >>> 01-02 10:35:25.419 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> augmenting modules from: >>> /sdcard/Android/data/net.bible.android.activity/files >>> 01-02 10:35:25.420 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> augmenting modules from: /sdcard/sword >>> 01-02 10:35:25.420 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() >>> adding locales from baseDir. >>> 01-02 10:35:25.420 5450 5538 D libsword.so: >>> LocaleMgr::loadConfigDir loading >>> /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/locales.d >>> 01-02 10:35:25.420 5450 5538 D libsword.so: >>> LocaleMgr::loadConfigDir loading >>> /data/user/0/org.crosswire.bishop/files/uilocales.d >>> 01-02 10:35:25.420 5450 5538 D libsword.so: >>> LocaleMgr::loadConfigDir loading /sdcard/sword/locales.d >>> 01-02 10:35:25.420 5450 5538 D libsword.so: >>> LocaleMgr::loadConfigDir loading /sdcard/sword/uilocales.d >>> 01-02 10:35:25.420 5450 5538 D libsword.so: libsword: init() end. >>> 01-02 10:35:25.420 5450 5538 D libsword.so: getModInfoList >>> returning 0 length array >>> 01-02 10:35:25.456 5450 5538 W libsword.so: >>> LocaleMgr::getLocale failed to find locales >>> 01-02 10:35:25.460 5450 5538 W libsword.so: >>> LocaleMgr::getLocale failed to find locales >>> >>> On 1/1/21 10:57 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: >>>> Hmmm. That's odd. If you can adb logcat your tablet while it is >>>> plugged into your laptop and have a look at the output when >>>> Bishop starts up, it might give us a clue. Bishop is pretty >>>> noisy to the logs. The detection logic is located in init(), here: >>>> >>>> >>>> https://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/bindings/java-jni/jni/swordstub.cpp >>>> >>>> <https://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/bindings/java-jni/jni/swordstub.cpp> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On January 1, 2021 2:18:29 PM MST, Tobias Klein >>>> <cont...@tklein.info> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Troy! >>>> >>>> I see this working with Bishop on my phone (Android 8.1.0). >>>> There Bishop reads from and writes to /sdcard/sword. >>>> >>>> However, it is not working on my Tablet (Android 10). I do >>>> have SWORD directories there with this structure: >>>> /sdcard/sword >>>> /sdcard/sword/installMgr >>>> /sdcard/sword/mods.d >>>> /sdcard/sword/modules >>>> >>>> When starting Bishop on the Tablet it asks for permissions >>>> and after confirmation it does not show any existing >>>> modules based on the structure above. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Tobias >>>> >>>> Am 1. Januar 2021 21:34:00 schrieb "Troy A. Griffitts" >>>> <scr...@crosswire.org>: >>>> >>>>> Yes, that's exactly right. Upon install, Bishop asks for >>>>> permissions to read and right files to /sdcard/sword/. If >>>>> it is able, it does, if not, it writes to its app’s >>>>> private data area. >>>>> >>>>> I don't believe there is anything like this available on >>>>> iOS, but I am no expert. I would be interested to learn >>>>> how iOS handles other common data files which have >>>>> multiple apps needing the ability to read and write, like >>>>> photos. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for wanting to coordinate on where files are stored. >>>>> >>>>> Troy >>>>> >>>>> On January 1, 2021 1:07:16 PM MST, Tobias Klein >>>>> <cont...@tklein.info> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Troy! >>>>> >>>>> Happy new year! >>>>> >>>>> Where does Bishop store the SWORD data files on >>>>> Android? I was browsing the filesystem but could not >>>>> find the respective directory. >>>>> >>>>> I am asking because I am working on Android support >>>>> for node-sword-interface and I wanted to align this >>>>> and use a common place for the SWORD data files. So >>>>> far I thought /sdcard/sword would be the right place. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Tobias >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse >>>>> my brevity. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my >>>> brevity. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >>>> http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >>>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >> http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
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