The way Apple manages to get iCloud to work & the way all other developers get 
it to work are a fair bit different. Probably having under the cover access 
helps? ;)

Anyway, the Dropbox API makes things pretty sweet for the end-user in that it 
doesn't reveal anything to them besides getting them to authenticate... Dropbox 
is then simply used as a behind-the-scenes sync. :)

I've also had users request EverNote sync, but as I've never used it, I'm not 
as sure about it?

Sent from my phone, hence this email may be short...

On 12/02/2013, at 20:42, Manfred Bergmann <manfred.bergm...@me.com> wrote:

> No, haven't tried iCloud yet. Many apps use it though (Contacts, Calendar, 
> Pages, Number, ...) and I'm quite happy with it most of the time.
> The advantage to the user is that there is zero configuration overhead, 
> nothing to configure.
> Where on Dropbox there must be some settings which define where, to which 
> folder or file the data should be synched, or?
> 
> 
> Manfred
> 
> Am 12.02.2013 um 10:08 schrieb Nic Carter <niccar...@mac.com>:
> 
>> 
>> Having a local copy, iCloud copy & Dropbox copy may be a little bit of 
>> overkill? and three copies of the data means if one version gets corrupted, 
>> that will replicate across all copies? And the effort to do 3-way sync is a 
>> lot more than 2-way...
>> Dropbox sync would be off by default, the user would have to switch it on 
>> (authenticate it) and otherwise it would only have a local copy.
>> 
>> I agree that having iCloud sync would be much simpler, as almost every iOS 
>> user would already have an account, but all my recent research on it has 
>> shown that it's not quite "finished" yet, in any of the 3 sync iterations 
>> that exist. For example, for a conversation that focuses on Core Data, take 
>> a look at http://storify.com/Jury/the-trials-of-icloud
>> Plus, Dropbox has stuff like versioning built-in. If iCloud stuffs up, which 
>> it does some of the time for no apparent reason, there is only one solution: 
>> delete all iCloud data connected with the app. For Dropbox, you can at least 
>> revert to an older version of the data that did work. 
>> 
>> Hence I am thinking of providing sync for those users who really want it. 
>> And they are more likely to have a Dropbox account already. If they don't 
>> switch on Dropbox syncing, it'll all be just local & they can put up with 
>> that. ;)
>> 
>> What do you think?
>> 
>> Have you tried iCloud stuff yet?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, ybic
>>    nic...  :)
>> 
>> On 12/02/2013, at 7:15 PM, Manfred Bergmann <manfred.bergm...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Nic.
>>> 
>>> I wouldn't use Dropbox instead but additionally.
>>> iCloud is the standard for synching user properties and settings across OS 
>>> X and iOS devices. Most people if not all using OS X or iOS already have an 
>>> iCloud account. Many people do not have a Dropbox account and this 
>>> shouldn't be a requirement.
>>> Is it possible to store a larger content on iCloud like personal commentary 
>>> modules. Well, they may not get that large but what's the iCloud limit?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Manfred
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 12.02.2013 um 08:17 schrieb Nic Carter <niccar...@mac.com>:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi team,
>>>> 
>>>> I think I may have mentioned this in the past, but I'm almost ready to go, 
>>>> and so have a few comments/questions about personal commentaries.
>>>> 
>>>> Different front-ends do things differently, but there is the Personal 
>>>> Commentary module that we can use for the user to write their own notes 
>>>> to. This is stored as a "normal module", stored in the usual modules 
>>>> location (or, at least, some "usual" location on the local filesystem).
>>>> PocketSword currently doesn't support the Personal Commentary module due 
>>>> to the fact that I haven't written any UI by which the user can write to 
>>>> it.
>>>> 
>>>> However, once the user can write notes, they must be able to sync. Right 
>>>> now users can have an iPhone and an iPad & have PocketSword on both & 
>>>> ideally any user created content should be sync'd across both.
>>>> [In fact, I received yet another user email about this earlier today.]
>>>> 
>>>> The next version of PS (almost out of beta) will sync Bible browsing 
>>>> history across devices via iCloud.
>>>> For the version following I was planning on adding sync of Bookmarks via 
>>>> iCloud as well.
>>>> However, Dropbox have recently released an API for iOS (& Android) for 
>>>> native sync: https://www.dropbox.com/developers/sync
>>>> So I am looking into sync of bookmarks via Dropbox instead.
>>>> This way I am not limiting a user's data to Apple products only, and sync 
>>>> is possible with other front-ends, if there was any desire for that to 
>>>> happen from other front-end developers.
>>>> 
>>>> And this then presents an idea of having user notes/Personal Commentary 
>>>> located on Dropbox. I am not sure how well the SWORD module format would 
>>>> function over a remote filesystem, and so I am putting this thought out 
>>>> there for comments from others.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So, my proposal is for real-time sync of bookmarks & user notes across 
>>>> front-ends via Dropbox.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks heaps, ybic
>>>>    nic...  :)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [Aside: Dropbox comes with plenty of space for a free account, so it's no 
>>>> financial burden for users. Anyone on the list who doesn't have it yet 
>>>> (but you all should, cause it's pretty nifty) can sign up for free via 
>>>> http://db.tt/F8p526B and then both you and I get a bonus 500MB of free 
>>>> space. If you feel uncomfortable with me posting this link to this list, 
>>>> please don't use the link and instead sign up the normal free way!]
>>>> 
>>>> 
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