Thanks for the comment Jonathan,

Yes, we've discussed using a social networking system and are leaning
toward opensocial right now because there are a number of projects in
the humanities (members of interedition) who have built useful tools in
disparate technologies who would like to collaborate.

Here is a sample opensocial container showing pub/sub functionality
between a client gadget and our image viewer as a gadget:

http://community.crosswire.org/viewer.html
http://crosswire.org/svn/community/trunk/webapp/viewer.html

You'll see the source is very minimal and allows gadgets to be embedded
from any number of other sites.

There are a zillion opensocial gadgets already available for us to use
(see http://igoogle.com) and there are containers written in a ton of
different languages, so others can use our gadgets no matter what
language they prefer.

Hope this is convincing.

Troy



On 12/07/2010 11:41 PM, Jonathanbatteas wrote:
> Troy I can definitely do that.
> 
> However, I wanted to ask a couple quick questions. The specs for this project 
> are pretty broad, and I could really see something like this leveraging a 
> social network aspect, profile, chat, messaging, sharing studies, and keeping 
> track of individual users' annotations. Has the option of using existing open 
> source content management systems as a base for this application been 
> discussed? There are literally thousands of them out there, many of which 
> could fit the bill as a base for this system
> 
> I am most familiar with Joomla, so I'll use that as an example. It is written 
> in PHP, rather than JSP, but since most of the custom work is going to be 
> done with JavaScript in the viewer, all of this work could be ported easily. 
> Joomla has an open source, though not free, social network component called 
> JomSocial, into which it would be fairly straight forward to created the 
> viewer/annotation component as a plugin (would that be something you would 
> consider working on Mike? You mentioned PHP). All that would be needed are 
> some database tables to store the information and link that information to 
> the users' profiles. User management and content (images for the manuscripts) 
> management would already be built into the base system.
> 
> Though this method might take a little extra work to learn the specifics of 
> whatever system was chosen as a base, it still could take much less time than 
> programming the entire thing from scratch.
> 
> No pressure at all, but if we did want to go this direction, I have a domain 
> license for JomSocial that I would be happy to give to this project. Consider 
> it my small donation.
> 
> Anyway, I'd be happy to work on some design for what you have so far, what 
> would the best way of looking at what you have so far (source)? Or is it all 
> located in the index file for the viewer? I'm away from my computer right 
> now, so I haven't had a chance to check. Thanks. Talk to you later.
> 
> On 12/07/2010 07:20 PM, jonathan batteas wrote:
>>/ ... I have general web dev experience, but nothing
> />/ that could touch the level of programming this would require. I am
> />/ mainly a UI and design guy. I am very interested in usability,...
> /
> Jonathan, this is EXACTLY what we need right now.  I am focusing on the
> functionality that the team here needs.  Ask anyone on this list, I SUCK
> at aesthetics!
> 
> Take the CSNTM indexing status page.  If you login at
>  <http://community.crosswire.org,>http://community.crosswire.org, then go to 
> Projects, then CSNTM
> Indexing, and look at the status page there, you'll see it is simply an
> HTML table with all the bits volunteers and managers need to see.  It's
> functional but absolutely ugly.  If you could design an HTML page with
> all the same features on it, I can encorporate your static html into my
> dynamic page which will produce the live data using your shiny new design.
> 
> Does this sound like something that interests you?
> 
> Troy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
> On Dec 7, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Mike Hagedon <m...@cainscape.com
> <mailto:m...@cainscape.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Troy,
>> Thanks for reposting that... I had forgotten how to get there.
>>
>> Now that I am there, I can't remember how to attach the images to the
>> records. I'm looking at ANA Fragment 12; my username is mike. 
>>
>> Also, if you wanted any PHP work (I see it's JSP now), I'd be
>> interested in that after my thesis is finished in May. Also, I can
>> contribute jQuery help if that's needed. 
>>
>> Mike Hagedon
>> Tucson, AZ
>> (Also a long-time lurker)
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Troy A. Griffitts
>> <<mailto:scr...@crosswire.org>scr...@crosswire.org
>> <mailto:scr...@crosswire.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 12/07/2010 07:20 PM, jonathan batteas wrote:
>>     > ... I have general web dev experience, but nothing
>>     > that could touch the level of programming this would require. I am
>>     > mainly a UI and design guy. I am very interested in usability,...
>>
>>     Jonathan, this is EXACTLY what we need right now.  I am focusing
>>     on the
>>     functionality that the team here needs.  Ask anyone on this list,
>>     I SUCK
>>     at aesthetics!
>>
>>     Take the CSNTM indexing status page.  If you login at
>>     <http://community.crosswire.org>http://community.crosswire.org,
>>     then go to Projects, then CSNTM
>>     Indexing, and look at the status page there, you'll see it is
>>     simply an
>>     HTML table with all the bits volunteers and managers need to see.
>>      It's
>>     functional but absolutely ugly.  If you could design an HTML page with
>>     all the same features on it, I can encorporate your static html
>>     into my
>>     dynamic page which will produce the live data using your shiny new
>>     design.
>>
>>     Does this sound like something that interests you?
>>
>>     Troy
>>
>>
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