Dear Mark,

Thank you for your encouragement that your sons don't hate me :) My truly sincere apologies for grouping so many people together into the same lump and firing off a list of my frustrations, impugning everyone to everything in my list. I understand, accept, and relate to their frustration. I am glad to hear that my suspicion is incorrect that many in that 'lump' despise working together with us-- at least that your sons don't feel that way.

Please accept my apologies. Looking forward to a cooperative, enjoyable, and profitable relationship moving forward.

        -Troy.



Mark Morgan wrote:
Troy,

I have never written to this forum before, but your post made me feel I should. My only involvement previously has been in reading posts since July last year.

In your comment about your work on the project having become a burden, I feel sympathy for you in this and hope it can be otherwise again. However, some points you made need answering, as some will have received wrong and damaging impressions. My comments are below.

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Troy A. Griffitts <scr...@crosswire.org <mailto:scr...@crosswire.org>> wrote:

    Matthew Talbert wrote:

        As to why the current documentation isn't better, or why there
        aren't
        more modules in source format to look at,


    It's because people don't step up and write the documentation.  I'd
    love to include the man pages from Jonathan Marsden in SVN.  Thanks
    Jonathan, for stepping up and trying to solve this area where we're
    lacking.



        it's essentially CrossWire
        policy to keep it so that average users can't create modules easily


    This is inappropriate.

    Matthew, many on the Xiphos, and BPBible teams,

    Most of your team members have unsubscribed from sword-devel because
    of various reasons.  In general, I understand it is because you
    don't like the way things are done around here; you don't think
    things are done efficiently enough-- whatever.

    You all really have just turned my love for this ministry into a
    burden the past 6 months.

    I would appreciate it if you would just please either leave or stop
    instigating fights.

    I'm tired of the private emails instead of to sword-devel, because
    you are making statements by unsubscribing.  The communication with
    other projects is just being hurt.  I've felt a real sense of hatred
    from your teams.  I've done everything possible to dissuade those
    feelings.  I'm sorry things aren't more efficient around here, but
    it's an open project and members of your teams have commit access to
    fix bugs.  I've called for volunteers to run stable branches (if a
    stable release is your latest complaint), and no one steps up.  This
    is open source volunteer work.  I'm sorry.  But I'd like to ask one
    last time.  Please be part of the community and fix things, and be
    encouraging and loving, and make this ministry enjoyable for
    everyone, or please just move on.


- You mention the BPBible team, of which I have some knowledge because it is written entirely (except for the translations!) by three of my sons who, incidentally, are all still subscribed to sword-devel. In 5 or 10 years, they may forgive me for sending this! :)

- You mention calling for volunteers to run stable branches and suggest that no-one has stepped up. Jonathan Morgan offered to help with building a stable release back in February. Not an offer of full support for a stable branch at that stage, but maybe it could have led to that if the offer had been accepted.

- You seem to imply that members of BPBible team have been given commit access but that they do nothing to fix bugs. You know that Ben has been making quite a few changes and bug fixes to the SWORD library recently. You seemed appreciative, which was nice.

- Sadly, you also mention a sense of hatred coming from the BPBible team. As I have been involved with quite a few discussions on the topic of The SWORD Project in our home, I can assure you that those discussions do not show any sense of hatred. There certainly is a sense of frustration at times when their desires for BPBible do not match the desires of those managing the release schedule of The SWORD Project - but I'm sure you would understand that frustration as you clearly feel it in reverse.

I would be happier if some of the responses I have read on this forum had been aimed more at building up God's people. Some are delightfully encouraging, but others are not. I'm sorry to have to say this, and pray we can do better in future.

I know nothing about those who work on Xiphos, but I hope the above shows clearly that including BPBible in your criticisms was not well based in fact.

May God continue to bless your work in this and the work of all who try to help others read and live his word.


God bless.


Mark

"All I have seen teaches me to trust the creator for all I have not seen"
Ralph Waldo Emerson

"Have you not known? Have you not heard?  The LORD is the everlasting God,
the Creator of the ends of the earth.  He does not faint or grow weary;
his understanding is unsearchable." Isaiah 40:28


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