Matthew Talbert wrote:

There is one serious advantage to adding import tools to a frontend
(ie, on Windows). There is a tremendous amount of content in ThML at
CCEL, but the licensing prohibits distributing said content. It's for
personal use only. The only formats that are re-distributable are the
plain-text documents. Adding this to a front-end would make it
trivially easy for a user to download a book from CCEL and add it to
his software.

Ugh. So software design considerations takes a back seat to someone else's peculiar licencing of one particular set of (admittedly useful) content? The right way to go is to work with the content provider to fix the licencing, not work around it in your software, isn't it? Sounds like they could switch to a form of the Creative Commons licence with minimal impact on their business model. I realize it might take real work (and some prayer!) to persuade them of the benefit to the community of doing this!

As to why the tools aren't distributed, for Xiphos (on Windows) it's
because the tools are around 20MB and a fairly strong element want to
keep the package download size as small as possible.

Ouch!  On Ubuntu those tools occupy...

echo `dpkg -c libsword7_1.5.11-1~jmarsden2~intrepid_amd64.deb |grep /usr/bin/ |sed -e 's/ \+/ /g' |cut -d ' ' -f3` |sed -e 's/ /+/g' |bc -q
 306944

about 300K. So Windows somehow bloats them by a factor of 66? Can nothing be done to improve on that?

As to why the current documentation isn't better, or why there aren't
more modules in source format to look at, it's essentially CrossWire
policy to keep it so that average users can't create modules easily

In which case, any form of "Making Import Easier", whether standalone or embedded into the front end reader programs, runs contra to the wishes of CrossWire... so is the whole issue therefore moot in this forum (sword-devel@crosswire.org) anyway??

Does this also mean I am likely to find my offering manpages for the existing conversion tools turned down on the grounds that they improve the usability of the tools, and such usability is explicitly unwanted!? That would be an unusual reason for declining contributed documentation.

Jonathan

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