List, On a side note - I just downloaded and installed OpenSolaris 2008.05 (5.11 for those of you on the Sun versioning scheme) and it installs Gnome 2.20 by default as its windowing system. It might have a more up-to-date version in the default package manager, but I installed it into a VM, and right now the VM is misbehaving. However, basing off of the pre-installed Gnome will probably be much easier than trying to shoe-horn something else into the system.
--Greg On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Greg Hellings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Karl, > > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Karl Kleinpaste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Greg, there were approximately two dozen pieces of information in your >> message for which I have exactly zero context. Bear in mind that I have >> not used a Solaris machine in the better part of 15 years. > > > My apologies, I was very thick with the information. I'll try and > elucidate a little more of it here. > > >> >> >> For starters, I have no knowledge of how to configure Solaris' package >> manager to use any other repository -- none of this GUI tool's menus >> offer any possibility of adding a new repository reference beyond just >> opensolaris.org, though there is a combobox in the upper right which >> would be useful, if such a thing had been configurable. At the moment, >> it's got just 1 element, opensolaris.org. > > > Firstly, the system I am working in is not the OpenSolaris but the > commercial version of Solaris 10 (which is supposed to be virtually > identical to OpenSolaris, just a little behind in the packages and with > commercial tech support). I have the ability to login with a GUI, but my > campus' VPN will not allow me to install it on a 64-bit operating system (my > home PC uses Vista 64-bit), so I have to connect to the Solaris system with > command-line for virtually all of my interaction with the system. At that > level, if one uses a bash script for login, the system looks and functions > extremely similar to a Linux environment. It is from the command line that > I use pkg-get, a system which is loosely based off of the Debian apt-get > packaging system, but rather than using .deb files, it uses standard Solaris > .pkg files. Judging by the number of references I find to it in a Google > search, it seems that the system is reasonably well in use by people in the > Solaris community. > > Since many people want access to the GNU tools and other open source > software, but do not necessarily want to deal with the minute differences > between the Linux and Solaris environments, a group called Community > SoftWare (CSW) offers the pkg-get tool that I mentioned above with a default > repository of certainly libraries and programs which are useful (mainly) to > developers who are looking for Linux-like library functionality in a Solaris > environment. The CSW tools (pkg-get) are available at the website I > mentioned in my previous email, http://www.opencsw.org. For my own > research on the Solaris system, I have found pkg-get to be an indispensible > tool which already has certain of the base libraries and packages which I > and my tools rely upon, and I recently installed the SWORD library to that > same machine in preparation of some research that I plan to do based off of > SWORD data, building it against the libraries installed with pkg-get (all of > the dependent libraries were available through pkg-get, except for CLucene). > > One of the difficult things related to CSW and the pkg-get system is that > it requires the user to manually alter (in my .bashrc script) the variables > for PATH and PKG_CONFIG_PATH and so on to find the executables and libraries > that are installed by the system, to /opt. Since I don't use the GUI login > except when my command-line login becomes corrupted or defunct, I can't > speak to the ease of installing the gnome packages that are available with > the CSW system or using them, but I can tell you that they are available > with a default installation of the pkg-get. > > For my own part, I installed pkg-get, modified my .bashrc to update the > PATH and PKG_CONFIG_PATH variables to point them to the subdirectories of > /opt/csw where the packages were installed, and then was able to > effortlessly install mysql, apache2, icu, gcc, vim, etc with updated > versions that patched problems with the bundled versions for the Solaris > 5.10 system. > > >> >> >> Also, you say that libxrender is in "both" repositories, but that's >> objectively not true when I am in the package tool, looking at "All" >> packages, and I search for "xre" -- empty set. >> >> In general, I have no knowledge of why any particular pkg-get script or >> tool is supposed to provide superior configurability beyond the GUI >> package tool I'm already using and so I have no reason to suppose it >> will be an improvement when the problem is not the package tool itself >> but the fact that the package in question is simply not there. > > > The pkg-get package is not intended to replace the default package > installation system, instead it is intended to supplement that system with > additional packages that Sun will not allow into the Solaris fold. I > seriously doubt that it will be better than the GUI system. I find that, > for package managers, I almost always prefer to use a GUI tool if I'm > looking for libraries which may or may not be in the package repository. > But, as a supplement for those packages which the standard package set of > Solaris excludes, pkg-get might be a useful addition to your system. > > Hope this cleared some things up, and if you need any other help or > information, don't hesitate to ask again. > > --Greg > > >> >> >> Any further clues would be welcome. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >> > >
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