Hello SwiNOG,

Thanks to all person which reply to us in private, the SwissNeutralNet
committee must meet to respond to the various proposals received.

We wish you a good week to all.

Best regards

Florian Siegenthaler
Association SwissNeutral.net
Fournisseur d'accès associatif à but non lucratif
[email protected]
https://www.swissneutral.net/

Le 07.05.19 à 21:55, Florian Siegenthaler a écrit :
> Hello SwiNOG list !
> 
> SwissNeutralNet is an non-profit association for net neutrality in
> Switzerland like others ISP in French region under the federation of
> FFDN (we are not actually member but it's a goal) ->
> https://www.ffdn.org/en. Actually we are over 30 members, and everyone
> can join us to support net neutrality. We aim to provide Internet
> connectivity with neutral rules like non discrimination on traffic,
> fixed IP address v4/v6 and to prove this is possible. For the moment our
> website is writed in french, it's not finished, i want to translate it
> in english, and why not in the future in german and italian if a person
> is interested to do that.
> 
> In 2018 we have become a RIPE member (AS200601), we obtained a last /22
> IPv4 block from 185.0.0.0/8 and one IPv6 prefix. We have an
> infrastructure in a datacenter in Lausanne, for the moment we are able
> to provide automated VPN service and we want to provide Internet access
> directly to our members which subscribe to the service (yes, we don't
> have customer), each person want to obtain our services need to become
> member in SwissNeutralNet.
> 
> To be able to provide connectivity to our members by copper/fiber lines,
> we take some informations from Swisscom Wholesale and the price is very
> very high (page 6/8 from this document if it's correct:
> https://www.swisscom.ch/dam/swisscom/en/ws/documents/E_BBCS-Documents/d_bbcs_handbuch-preisev1-24--gueltig-ab-01-03-2019-.pdf
> ). 100'000 CHF for a BBCS interconnexion to provide connectivity on
> local loop is correct ?
> 
> How an enterprise which want to enter in the market can be a provider at
> this cost ? I know there is some costs to provide lines, to install and
> maintain cables under roads etc, but if this price is the official cost,
> how a little enterprise can enter in the market ?
> 
> Okay, today we need to enter in the market for our goals about net
> neutrality, and we don't have much money to spend it into /dev/null so
> we ask you how we can provide Internet access via local loop at a
> reasonable price ? Which of you, if you have a copper/fiber collect
> interconnexion with Swisscom, would be interested to cooperate with us
> for some DSL/fiber lines ?
> 
> We would be happy to read you in private at [email protected] for
> your proposition/partnership and to reply to your message. And of course
> it's very interesting to discuss here about solutions, tips and idea
> about access to local loop.
> 
> I'm happy to meet you in a future event, i cannot be present tomorrow at
> SwiNOG #35 in Berne.
> 
> Best regards
> 


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