I have seen things here similar to this very often / permanently:

cablecom  to UK/NL often via level3 and washington instead going directly

may something to do with UPC and partnership with level3 - and the
"Nonpartners" of level3.

"we do not peer with you" politics ?!

imho   cogent vs level3

below a trace to system in london from cablecom home:

  2     9 ms    17 ms     7 ms  x.dclient.hispeed.ch [x]
  3    10 ms    11 ms    10 ms
217-168-58-101.static.cablecom.ch[217.168.58.101]
  4   111 ms   101 ms   101 ms  84.116.211.22
  5   101 ms   183 ms   102 ms  84.116.204.225
  6   102 ms   101 ms   101 ms  84-116-130-181.aorta.net [84.116.130.181]
  7   102 ms   101 ms   101 ms  84.116.133.185
  8   101 ms   101 ms   110 ms  84.116.134.62
  9   110 ms   107 ms   158 ms  te-4-1.car3.Washington1.Level3.net[4.79.168.201]
 10     *      110 ms   117 ms
ae-3-80.edge3.Washington4.Level3.net[4.69.149.146]
 11   108 ms   107 ms   109 ms
Cogent-level3-1x10G.washington.Level3.net[4.68.63.174]
 12   149 ms   109 ms   109 ms
be2113.mpd21.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com[154.54.6.170]
 13   111 ms   174 ms   107 ms
te0-0-0-20.ccr21.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com[154.54.42.22]
 14   180 ms   179 ms   191 ms
te0-2-0-2.mpd22.lon13.atlas.cogentco.com[154.54.42.54]
 15   200 ms   179 ms   193 ms
te0-7-0-30.ccr21.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com[130.117.0.117]
 16   215 ms   232 ms   192 ms
te2-1.ccr01.lon18.atlas.cogentco.com[154.54.61.214]
 17   190 ms   191 ms   183 ms  149.14.8.34
 18   179 ms   179 ms   180 ms  y

tried multiple times to escalate this in ccom helpdesk.
was silted there......






2013/9/26 Fredy Kuenzler <[email protected]>

> Anyone else seeing this... do we have a new peering spat or is it just a
> random routing issue?
>
> Regards,
> Fredy
>
>
>
> traceroute to 84.116.204.234 (84.116.204.234), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
>  1  r1zlz1.core.init7.net (77.109.136.233) [AS13030]  23.682 ms  23.741
> ms  23.775 ms
>  2  r1zrh1.core.init7.net (77.109.128.209) [AS13030]  0.188 ms
> r1zrh2.core.init7.net (77.109.128.74) [AS13030]  0.199 ms
> r1zrh1.core.init7.net (77.109.128.209) [AS13030]  0.193 ms
>  3  r1bas1.core.init7.net (77.109.128.130) [AS13030]  1.090 ms  1.129 ms
> r1fra1.core.init7.net (77.109.128.250) [AS13030]  38.806 ms
>  4  r1fra2.core.init7.net (77.109.128.133) [AS13030]  5.997 ms  5.988 ms
>  6.016 ms
>  5  TenGigabitEthernet8-1.ar2.FRA4.gblx.net (64.213.54.33) [AS3549]
> 6.653 ms  6.134 ms  6.673 ms
>  6  ae7.edge2.SanJose3.level3.net (4.68.62.177) [AS3356]  153.420 ms
> 152.925 ms  153.399 ms
>  7  vlan70.csw2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.152.126) [AS3356]  161.564 ms
> vlan90.csw4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.152.254) [AS3356]  161.054 ms
> vlan70.csw2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.152.126) [AS3356]  161.807 ms
>  8  ae-71-71.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.5) [AS3356]  160.948 ms
> ae-61-61.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.1) [AS3356]  160.512 ms
> 160.433 ms
>  9  ae-2-2.ebr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.135.186) [AS3356]  161.355 ms
>  161.310 ms  161.509 ms
> 10  ae-47-47.ebr2.NewYork2.Level3.net (4.69.201.34) [AS3356]  161.949 ms
> 4.69.201.38 (4.69.201.38) [AS3356]  161.581 ms  161.724 ms
> 11  ae-1-100.ebr1.NewYork2.Level3.net (4.69.135.253) [AS3356]  162.124
> ms  161.121 ms  161.658 ms
> 12  4.69.201.85 (4.69.201.85) [AS3356]  161.126 ms 4.69.201.93
> (4.69.201.93) [AS3356]  161.524 ms 4.69.201.85 (4.69.201.85) [AS3356]
> 161.193 ms
> 13  ae-72-72.csw2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.150) [AS3356]
> 161.151 ms  161.558 ms ae-82-82.csw3.Washington1.Level3.net
> (4.69.134.154) [AS3356]  161.627 ms
> 14  ae-33-80.car3.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.149.133) [AS3356]
> 185.388 ms ae-43-90.car3.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.149.197) [AS3356]
>  263.449 ms ae-23-70.car3.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.149.69) [AS3356]
>  264.054 ms
> 15  UPC-BROADBA.car3.Washington1.Level3.net (4.79.168.202) [AS3356]
> 161.118 ms  161.109 ms  160.838 ms
> 16  84.116.134.61 (84.116.134.61) [AS6830]  167.752 ms  167.674 ms
> 159.751 ms
> 17  at-vie15a-ra1-xe-2-2-0.aorta.net (84.116.130.245) [AS6830]  160.584
> ms  161.327 ms 84-116-130-62.aorta.net (84.116.130.62) [AS6830]  160.749
> ms
> 18  hu-bud02a-ra3-xe-1-1-0.aorta.net (84.116.130.194) [AS6830]  161.284
> ms  160.877 ms ch-zrh02a-ra1-xe-2-0-0.aorta.net (84.116.130.226)
> [AS6830]  160.285 ms
> 19  84.116.204.234 (84.116.204.234) [AS6830]  160.346 ms  160.831 ms
> 160.272 ms
>
>
> --
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